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I didn't spin everything and put blame on him where I think it's justified.

My response is directed the idea that Vogel was the biggest issue with this team. I only responded to your initial post because I thought it ignores a lot of context.

For those saying keep Frank: name one thing he seemed to be good at this year besides consistently beating ineffective players/rotations/schemes to death? Offense identity- nope Defense identity- nope Rotational management- nope (Eubanks??? No chance for Thad?? Bol Bol hate..) Adjustments? - nope F...

I read/heard somewhere that he only wants to coach the Knicks or that it's his dream job. Something like that.

Anyway, I think he'd bound for the NBA sooner than later and Ishbia should be proactive with this hire. He tried the re-tread make everyone happy approach and it failed.

I'll allow some grace for the injuries that slowed his integration into the team, but he showed us what he's capable of doing for a couple of games at the end of the season which gave me some hope. Then he reverted into the guy we saw for most of the season. Hesitant in decision making and mediocre ...

TOO wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:42 pm

Need a no nonsense coach, maybe even one that will ride the players and make them uncomfortable. Budenholzer?

I'd knock on Dan Hurley's door.

For those saying keep Frank: name one thing he seemed to be good at this year besides consistently beating ineffective players/rotations/schemes to death? Offense identity- nope Defense identity- nope Rotational management- nope (Eubanks??? No chance for Thad?? Bol Bol hate..) Adjustments? - nope F...

I agree and I think that's on Ishbia. He tried to make everyone happy by compartmentalizing the coaching and player roles, but it just doesn't work like that in sports. There must be a hierarchy with the head coach at the top and the whole organization viewed Vogel as a defensive coordinator more th...

Everyone on the roster kept doing this kind of overpassing all season. Unselfish to a flaw. So bizarre. It was only fitting that the same thing basically ended the season.

Wally_West wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 28, 2024 11:25 pm

Plus Beal would say no.


Regarding Nurk, not sure the answer other than ditching his ass and hope you can get a decent Center in the draft. But hope ain’t a plan.

The center position is gonna be a tough one to figure out.

I'm curious why you think he'd say no.

I brought up Orlando, so I could see something like Joe Ingles, Jett Howard and draft capital for Beal. I have a hard time believing the Suns could directly turn Beal into the right pieces to fit the rotation. It's more likely they'd have to start by freeing up space and acquiring contracts to event...

No chance in hell Atlanta would make that deal because they could do much better than Bradley Beal for Murray and Capela.

And they should be skeptical of pairing Beal with Trae Young.

They need to play bigger. Split is right about KD playing small. They need a legit 4 next to him. To me the 1-2-3 should be Beal-Book-KD next to a solid 4 and 5 who are good defensively and not total zeros on the offensive end. Either they can shoot 3s or rim run and be a lob threat. An Aaron Gordo...

I still don't think they can insert a PG if they're planning to play them with Booker, Beal, and KD. Maybe the turnovers will go down, but the rebounding and defense will almost certainly be much worse. Yeah, I think Beal will need to come off the bench. He can be sixth man. $50M and he's coming of...

https://www.twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1784808857610653958?s=42&t=ROf4IjhneNCgfwbiOLKJFA Hmm. Interesting. Concerning. Phoenix Suns swept: What went wrong, what’s next for Frank Vogel, Big 3 and more Frank Vogel entered the home locker room at Footprint Center and lit into his team. After...

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:42 pm

Nurk has to go too. He was useless in the playoffs. He had been so good at times during the regular season.

Probably gotta try and trade Beal, just don’t see it

It's their only way out unless KD asks for a trade.

3TheHardaway wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:42 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:39 pm

What pg are we getting for the vet min? Westbrook?

CP3 once GSW doesn't guarantee his deal. No way they're going into next year with 30 million to CP3.

He creates more issues than he solves if he's in the playoff rotation. He's just too old.

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:39 pm

What pg are we getting for the vet min? Westbrook?

I'd eat another hat if that happened.

I still don't think they can insert a PG if they're planning to play them with Booker, Beal, and KD. Maybe the turnovers will go down, but the rebounding and defense will almost certainly be much worse. Yeah, I think Beal will need to come off the bench. He can be sixth man. $50M and he's coming of...

They pretty much have to make the Finals this year. There's a huge tax bill coming for them and it'll become a lot more difficult to find quality rotation players on the minimum in the coming seasons.

I completely disagree. +1 Love how you guys waited until Beal had a stinker to jump all over him. He had one good offensive game all series just like Booker and KD. Well, KD kinda had two. Beal was also the primary defender on Edwards who torched the Suns all series. To be clear again, I'm only poi...