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Assists to Turnover ratio?

Only in Ayton's and JeremyG's mind is Ayton viewed as the second coming of Giannis; if he only had the right teammates/coach. Reality has him with the basketball desire of Luther Wright.

Wonder where he will fit in with the Pantheon of Blazers centers: Walton, Bowie, and Oden.

Last years team had two starters: one whose motor was about burned out and another whose motor was equivalent to a VW bus.

Makes a difference when everyone goes full speed.

Lol, he could be a 20 ppg scorer without changing anything about his game. He was literally an 18 ppg scorer. Just 3 more minutes per game would do it. :lol: OK, 25 ppg and 15 boards per game. Play through contact and boxing out would accomplish both but not our problem anymore. That hasn’t been do...

I'm genuinely curious about the tendency of most Suns fans to feel like they have to be in favor of, defend, or eventually come around to, basically every move the front office makes. Is there a reason why this is the case? Because it doesn’t help to incessantly whine about what’s been done and is ...

I think Ayton's issue a lot of times is he wants to spend time thinking about what he's going to do instead of going with instinct, muscle memory, reflex, or whatever you want to call it. 99.99% of players in the NBA would have dunked the ball in the first video without a thought. Ayton does fine wi...

JeremyG,

Who is responsible for Ayton's lack of development in the following areas:

Dribbling?
General ball handling?
Positioning?
Footwork?

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:53 am

What a fucking clown loser. What other player in the league refers to themselves in the third person with their self proclaimed nickname?

Karl Malone?

A fan on another forum posted this which I think sums up my thoughts about Ayton's Suns tenure and departure quite well: It will be interesting to watch games where I no longer complain about effort. Will there be games where somewhat limited players don’t excel? Sure. But I don’t expect to questio...

There is a subset of NBA players whose playing performance always increases during a contract year. Too bad they can't always be signed to single year contracts, because another team will take the risk and offer more.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:02 pm

TOO wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:32 pm

Abstain.

This. We don't know what the Suns know regarding Ayton's mental state.

Maybe they thought Ayton was channeling Luther Wright.

They need to treat him like he has the gas tank of a lawn mower. You need to constantly gas him up. Before the game, at every timeout, at halftime, at the start of the 4th quarter and afterwards. "Let's go dawg, you got this!" "You are showing them Dominayton tonight!" "You...

I remember a brief discussion about the summer league stats Bo Outlaw would put up when he played for the Suns.

Level of competition matters.

During the series versus Denver, there was a sequence when Ayton was passed the ball as he just passed half court. He bobbled the ball around and I thought was going to turn it over when he passed it. Pretty much showed everything he needs to develop. There wasn't a defender on him.

How does that compare with the other top ten centers?

What is Deandre's assist to turnover ratio?

How about a team option to void a contract if desired when failing to win a championship?

I kind of liked what Lee brought. Smaller, quicker, shifty guard who could get into the lane. I wouldn't want to have to rely on him for a major role but as a 13-15th guy we could do worse. I still think we need another legit backup PG/ballhandler. Not sure I feel comfortable with Payne as the only...

I think losing Saric impacted that series more than was realized at the time. You never know. Saric was good at positioning his body on defense. OTOH, the refs were good at calling fouls on us no matter what we tried on Giannis as he barreled into us. I would also argue that besides losing a big bo...