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Yes, the "doesn't get enough touches" argument is the worst for the pay-Ayton camp because he touches the ball with an opportunity to make a play plenty of times. He usually doesn't even consider making a move to score or threaten the defense like a "max player" should.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Fri May 20, 2022 4:06 am

I noticed a few times during the season Holiday was a little lost on both sides of the court, so it's hard having 4 guys out there moving at one speed and a 5th moving a step slow or thinking about where to go/what to do.

Reminds me of the Suns starting PG for most of the Mavs series.

This isnt near enough value for Ayton, and I'm saying this as probably his biggest hater lol. I'm perplexed by this. Seems like people are simultaneously underrating and overrating Ayton. He's not worth the max, but I'm only taking back a superstar in a S&T.. How does that make sense? In defens...

Is anyone else a bit surprised we haven't heard more about what the fuck happened in Game 7 from the team? How long is it going to take? It's been almost a week. Maybe that's a benefit of playing in Phoenix?

Will one of these guys have to change teams for them to talk about it?

In a vacuum, every trade involving Ayton will make the Suns worse. One of the biggest reasons for not paying him the max is the opportunity to improve the surrounding talent on the roster. For example, significantly upgrading the third guard position and adding a reliable playmaker/shot creator. Th...

Off the wall idea of the day (that I think works).. Cam Payne & Ayton sign and trade to Charlotte for Terry Rozier and the 13th pick. Use the 13th pick on Mark Williams from Duke. This isnt near enough value for Ayton, and I'm saying this as probably his biggest hater lol. I'm perplexed by this...

In a vacuum, every trade involving Ayton will make the Suns worse. One of the biggest reasons for not paying him the max is the opportunity to improve the surrounding talent on the roster. For example, significantly upgrading the third guard position and adding a reliable playmaker/shot creator.

I would guess that some people are still imagining him as the player he was before getting paid, when there were rumors of the Suns potentially signing him. I know I was very hesitant to signing him to the type of deal he's on now, but he's proved his worth on that contract, IMO. He can get his own ...

Off the wall idea of the day (that I think works).. Cam Payne & Ayton sign and trade to Charlotte for Terry Rozier and the 13th pick. Use the 13th pick on Mark Williams from Duke. This isnt near enough value for Ayton, and I'm saying this as probably his biggest hater lol. I'm perplexed by this...

Off the wall idea of the day (that I think works)..

Cam Payne & Ayton sign and trade to Charlotte for Terry Rozier and the 13th pick. Use the 13th pick on Mark Williams from Duke.

It's depressing watching the Warriors play defense with effort. The Suns were so complacent on that end against the Mavs.

I think Mikal started to turn the corner. He developed a repertoire of shots in the paint all season but just missed them against Dallas. The next step I want to see will be him attacking as an initiator, not just off of second action or ball rotation opportunities. 1-2 dribble pull ups and PnR wit...

I think Mikal started to turn the corner. He developed a repertoire of shots in the paint all season but just missed them against Dallas. The next step I want to see will be him attacking as an initiator, not just off of second action or ball rotation opportunities. 1-2 dribble pull ups and PnR with...

The right move has always been to match any offer for Ayton because they cannot let him go for nothing, and a sign and trade will likely be too difficult to work out. I think cooler heads will prevail in the coming weeks and Ayton won't refuse to re-sign with the Suns when they match an offer. As mu...

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Tue May 17, 2022 6:44 pm

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Tue May 17, 2022 6:36 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue May 17, 2022 6:31 pm

Ayton for Cole Anthony and WCJ? I’d do that I think…I love the idea of Isaac, but can’t trust his health.

Anthony and WCJ are a pretty good haul. Still doesn't solve the issue of needing a third scorer.

You gotta hope Cole is that guy

I already know he's not.

I'm totally out on Isaac, Simmons, Zion, etc. for this Suns team. They can't take that kind of risk if they're also committed to going for a ring with Chris Paul.

Split T wrote: ↑

Tue May 17, 2022 6:31 pm

Ayton for Cole Anthony and WCJ? I’d do that I think…I love the idea of Isaac, but can’t trust his health.

Anthony and WCJ are a pretty good haul. Still doesn't solve the issue of needing a third scorer.

"Internally expressing a desire to play elsewhere" isn't saying a whole lot, IMO. Internally as in the locker room with his teammates? I find that hard to believe. His agent communicating with James Jones and the front office? OK, maybe. Ayton to his buddies on XBOX live? Yeah, probably.

I don't know what you're talking about. I'm completely rational about a game that has ruined my day/night on countless occasions.

Did he "ask out" as you say? I haven't seen it reported so clearly.