Because they didn't have poisonous gasses aimed at each other.
Suns News: Week 2 10/22-10/28
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"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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Late to the John Wall discussion, but here's my take:
Remember in 2014-2015 when Amare and Joe Johnson were the 2 highest paid players in the NBA? John Wall has the highest guaranteed salary in 2022-23. (Tied with Harden)
Are you confident that he will be a top 5 or 10 player? Do you think his immediate impact on our team gives us the momentum to win in spite of his contract? No. And No. He would be a new hight of awful "veteran leadership" at the highest price we've paid yet.
Remember in 2014-2015 when Amare and Joe Johnson were the 2 highest paid players in the NBA? John Wall has the highest guaranteed salary in 2022-23. (Tied with Harden)
Are you confident that he will be a top 5 or 10 player? Do you think his immediate impact on our team gives us the momentum to win in spite of his contract? No. And No. He would be a new hight of awful "veteran leadership" at the highest price we've paid yet.
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I'd much rather have Walker than Wall. Not that we have that choice.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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If we're willing to trade for a crazy contract, Conley is my guy.
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Agreed. It's less and for 2 less years I believe. Plus, he seems to be a better leader and floor general.
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Re: Suns News: Week 2 10/22-10/28
He's really exactly what we're missing. Jrue would be another example, but I don't see a scenario where he's available.
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You're right, I can't see it happening as they are playing well.
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I believe MIA will want to get rid of contracts once they realize they are bad. I think there is a three way trade where Dragic comes here, Hassan is sent to a win now, cap strangled team that lacks an interior presence (say WAS) and MIA gets back cap relief and some not-so- great draft stock and/or youth, providing Riley with a high draft pick in '19 via tanking and setting him up nicely for this upcoming FA class.
It's also a matter of time before CLE moves Hill and Kutcher (maybe Tristan and Love too).
It's also a matter of time before CLE moves Hill and Kutcher (maybe Tristan and Love too).
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I don't think you can deliver Hassan to a cap strangled team and then Miami gets back cap relief, since we clearly aren't providing any.
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He has two years left after this season. So if it doesn't work out, you might even be able to do a buyout/stretch or something after next season. It wouldn't have to be long term.
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I like that I'm roping people into the Conley idea because "it's not as bad as trading for John Wall."
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How many years left for Conley? He's nice and I thought about him. Definitely preferred to Wall
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$30M this year, $32M next year, $34M in 20-21.
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I don't care about the money. If you can get him, get him! Can you imagine how much better we'd be?
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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I like Mike Conley a lot. I'd take him despite that huge contract. He's a great player and a great character guy. Plays the right way. Wouldn't have a huge ego and try to one-up Booker or Ayton or worry about who was "the man" or whatever.
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tyler johnson can be had for chandler and bender.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:29 amI believe MIA will want to get rid of contracts once they realize they are bad.
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https://hoopshype.com/2018/11/01/phoeni ... hot-chart/
Here’s an interesting article highlighting Ayton’s effectiveness operating from the pivot.
Here’s an interesting article highlighting Ayton’s effectiveness operating from the pivot.
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We have a 105 million dollar basketball team.
I doubt Sarver is going to be okay with taking on a guy who makes 30 million on his own.
I doubt Sarver is going to be okay with taking on a guy who makes 30 million on his own.