2019 NBA Playoffs

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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by The Bobster » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 pm

Does this now give Golden State the label of being a team that will clear a player to play when he's not healthy, and put him at risk for further injury if it's an important game?

Should the Warriors have not cleared Durant to play?
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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:19 pm

They literally just forbade Klay from playing in game 3.
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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by Cap » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:03 pm

The Bobster wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 pm
Should the Warriors have not cleared Durant to play?
Nobody can answer that except those who have access to the exams that were done before he was cleared.
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Post by Indy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 pm

Cap wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:03 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 pm
Should the Warriors have not cleared Durant to play?
Nobody can answer that except those who have access to the exams that were done before he was cleared.
Even with that it is still likely a judgement call, based a lot on what he says about how he feels. I don't get the impression he felt pressured by his coach or the docs to play. I think life pressured him into playing, and I am sure how well he did in his practices helped. He had a pretty amazing first quarter.

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Post by JeremyG » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:45 pm

Indy wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:24 pm
Cap wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:03 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 pm
Should the Warriors have not cleared Durant to play?
Nobody can answer that except those who have access to the exams that were done before he was cleared.
Even with that it is still likely a judgement call, based a lot on what he says about how he feels. I don't get the impression he felt pressured by his coach or the docs to play. I think life pressured him into playing, and I am sure how well he did in his practices helped. He had a pretty amazing first quarter.
But I hope they warned him that he was risking an Achilles rupture by playing. Because they had to have known that. And knowing that, should they have refused to let him play?

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Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:16 am

The question I have is, if he weren't an impending free agent, would they have urged him to play? In a sense they had nothing to lose, since it was rumored that he was going to leave anyway.

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Post by Bucktastic365 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:47 pm

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:16 am
The question I have is, if he weren't an impending free agent, would they have urged him to play? In a sense they had nothing to lose, since it was rumored that he was going to leave anyway.

If I was Durant I'd have the Warriors pay for my year of rehab. He's be smart to stay for his final year, and test the waters next off-season.

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Post by Split T » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:52 pm

Bucktastic365 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:47 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:16 am
The question I have is, if he weren't an impending free agent, would they have urged him to play? In a sense they had nothing to lose, since it was rumored that he was going to leave anyway.

If I was Durant I'd have the Warriors pay for my year of rehab. He's be smart to stay for his final year, and test the waters next off-season.
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Post by Hermen » Thu Jun 13, 2019 4:42 am

I don't believe the Warriors urged him to play, or pressured the doctors to clear him. If they (including Durant) thought the risk was too high, he wouldn't have played. I don't think him being a FA matters at all, that would be a huge black mark for the franchise. And I would guess career threatening for the doctors. I think Lowe also said that KD had his own doctor involved as well.

He felt good, he wanted to play, they probably knew the risk is higher than normal, but it's hard to know how much. It's easy to point the finger at them now, but sometimes you just are that unlucky.

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Post by Marty [Mori Chu] » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:30 pm

It just goes to show, you shouldn't listen to doctors/staff who say, "Your ___ (part) is badly injured, but by playing on it, you aren't risking any further injury." B-S. If you play on a bad leg, you're taking a great risk to your health and career. End of story.

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Post by Indy » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:39 pm

Yeah but you take that risk every second you are practicing or playing. It isn't like KD knew. And he will get paid either way. Easy Money Sniper

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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:27 pm

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Post by INFORMER » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:57 pm

He was fantastic.

Absolutely deflating seeing Klay go down. He was having an incredible game.
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Post by INFORMER » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:58 pm

Siakam was absolutely tremendous this postseason.
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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by BookTheGoat » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:31 pm

Let’s go!! Congrats Raptors

Where does the Kawhi trade rank amongst best trades in history?

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Post by carey » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:46 pm

BookTheGoat wrote:Let’s go!! Congrats Raptors

Where does the Kawhi trade rank amongst best trades in history?
Pretty high but GS' injuries had as much to do with Toronto winning as Kawhi did.
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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by In2ition » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:50 pm

carey wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:46 pm
BookTheGoat wrote:Let’s go!! Congrats Raptors

Where does the Kawhi trade rank amongst best trades in history?
Pretty high but GS' injuries had as much to do with Toronto winning as Kawhi did.
It's amazing that if Embiid didn't get sick in that series, they might be the champs right now. I think they dropped a couple games to Toronto when he was under the weather and still only lost on a last second shot by Kawhi.
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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by Nodack » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:57 pm

Grats to Toronto! They have to be stoked! That city is gonna rock tonight.

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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by specialsauce » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:31 pm

Lets go Toronto! Happy for them. Down goes a dynasty. Sad for Klay, don't really care about the others.

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Re: 2019 NBA Playoffs

Post by In2ition » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:33 pm

So sad for Klay.
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