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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by ShelC » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:45 pm

I'm still digesting it. So many moving parts with BK and Harden being out of shape and Kyrie not being with the team plus giving up Levert and Allen. I do like Levert in Indy, he should fit well there. Houston had no choice but to do a deal and Wall, Dipo, Wood and Boogie is at least intriguing. All eyes are going to be on BK tho.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Indy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm

Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Split T » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm

Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Split: I would trade DA for SGA right now(11-24-2020)

Cap: I wouldn’t. Somebody remember to check this post in five years and see which of us looks the fool.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Indy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:03 pm

Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
doesn't mean you aren't. :P

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Superbone » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:32 pm

Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Some of us called you crazy before you said that too. :P
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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Furlanfufi » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:27 pm

It's only me that thinks Steve Nash is crying in a fetal position thinking how he'll deal with all the drama?

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by carey » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:52 pm

Two-time is coaching two MVPs. I hope he can pull a Kerr but I have my doubts.
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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Mori Chu » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm

Boy. On paper that Nets roster is loaded, but in real life 2/3 of those stars are completely out to lunch, and the third is a petulant child, and all 3 demand the ball too much. I think this is going to implode and fail in grand fashion. They'll be a playoff team, but they won't win the title, and they'll spend the offseason pointing fingers at each other. I bet somebody is out in a year. My guess would be Kyrie.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Furlanfufi » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:34 pm

Mori Chu wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:29 pm
Boy. On paper that Nets roster is loaded, but in real life 2/3 of those stars are completely out to lunch, and the third is a petulant child, and all 3 demand the ball too much. I think this is going to implode and fail in grand fashion. They'll be a playoff team, but they won't win the title, and they'll spend the offseason pointing fingers at each other. I bet somebody is out in a year. My guess would be Kyrie.
Out to lunch is a very good definition of Harden right now. Out to lunch, to dinner, and don't forget about snacks along the day...

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by specialsauce » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 am

Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Man I did and I’m thinking pre-ACL tear I would take that deal now. I’ve lost all faith in DA

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Wally_West » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:22 am

specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Man I did and I’m thinking pre-ACL tear I would take that deal now. I’ve lost all faith in DA
Wow bro he hasn’t lost all faith in you.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by O_Gardino » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:53 am

Oladipo and Allen + all those picks and swaps is a crazy god deal for Harden. Crazy.

The Rockets can turn around and fight for a playoff spot now, if Wall stays healthy.
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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Charlie Smithy! » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:54 am

specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:30 pm
Ayton for Allen straight up?
People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Man I did and I’m thinking pre-ACL tear I would take that deal now. I’ve lost all faith in DA
The question is, would you take an ayton for oubre swap?

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by specialsauce » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:31 pm

Charlie Smithy! wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:54 am
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm


People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Man I did and I’m thinking pre-ACL tear I would take that deal now. I’ve lost all faith in DA
The question is, would you take an ayton for oubre swap?
I wouldn’t take Oubre on a minimum deal lol

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by specialsauce » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:32 pm

Wally_West wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:22 am
specialsauce wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:18 am
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:58 pm
Indy wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:51 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:41 pm


People called me crazy earlier when I said I’d consider a Dinwiddie/Allen for Ayton trade
not all of us called you crazy.
True, only some called me crazy
Man I did and I’m thinking pre-ACL tear I would take that deal now. I’ve lost all faith in DA
Wow bro he hasn’t lost all faith in you.
:lol:

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Split T » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:38 pm

O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:53 am
Oladipo and Allen + all those picks and swaps is a crazy god deal for Harden. Crazy.

The Rockets can turn around and fight for a playoff spot now, if Wall stays healthy.
Well Allen went to Cleveland...so it’s Oladipo, 4 1sts, and 4 swaps.

I guess it all depends on what happens in Brooklyn...I’m not sure exactly when the picks/swaps are, but the ones coming soon won’t be great. The later ones could be decent, but Houston needs picks, they had traded essentially all of them away I believe.
Split: I would trade DA for SGA right now(11-24-2020)

Cap: I wouldn’t. Somebody remember to check this post in five years and see which of us looks the fool.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Shabazz » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:40 pm

They probably should have grabbed Simmons and Thybulle.

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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Flagrant Fowl » Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:44 pm

The Rockets owner wants to cut salary. Nothing's cheaper on the books than future draft picks.
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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by O_Gardino » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm

Split T wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:38 pm
O_Gardino wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:53 am
Oladipo and Allen + all those picks and swaps is a crazy god deal for Harden. Crazy.

The Rockets can turn around and fight for a playoff spot now, if Wall stays healthy.
Well Allen went to Cleveland...so it’s Oladipo, 4 1sts, and 4 swaps.

I guess it all depends on what happens in Brooklyn...I’m not sure exactly when the picks/swaps are, but the ones coming soon won’t be great. The later ones could be decent, but Houston needs picks, they had traded essentially all of them away I believe.
I had mi-read that. Allen would have been a significant piece for them.
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Re: Harden to Brooklyn

Post by Mori Chu » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:27 pm

4 picks plus 4 swaps is just insane. You are trading away almost a decade of your team's future for a fat unhappy star. If they don't win a title in the next 2 years they'll really come to regret this deal.

I wonder if deals like this one will lead the next CBA to include a rule similar to the Stepien rule, this time forbidding including more than N draft picks in the same trade, or no more than N years in a row of (traded away pick + traded away pick-swap). It's just ridiculous that some future GM might have to come in and not have his own draft pick for 8 years.

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