One thing to keep in mind is that Jabari Parker isn't 100% sure he is coming out. I think that there's a chance he returns to Duke. But let's say he doesn't.
I think it's a lock that Embiid, Wiggins, and Parker go in the top three, though that could change if Embiid's back doesn't checkout.
So that leaves Vonleh, Exum, Gordon and Randle (I believe there are seven outstanding prospects in the draft, with Smart being a rung below them). One of those four players will go at 4. Could be Exum. Could be Randle. Could be Vonleh. So from my point of view, at 5, there will be three worthwhile choices.
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Parker needs to shed the Baby fat...butI think he will. I think the best comparison to him may be Paul Pierce. He is still 3/4 in my eyes, but I may toy with taking Randle or Gordon over him. Noah Vonlaeh could be a beast, but I only saw 1 Indiana game this yr, he looked good during it but a little raw. I've seen highlights and read alot, but still not the same as game action.Might be 1 of the higher ceilings, but may take a few yrs to get there. He's probably the prospect I've seen the least, other then Exum, out of the top 8.
Parker doesn't know what he's doing on Defense. Duke seemed like they were on tv every other day so I saw a crap load of him. He can check out on D at times. When Duke is playing Offense/Defense with him and Rodney Hood against 14th seeded Mercer, it makes you question him a bit. Now Parker's offensive game is so good He will prob be able to overcome his defensive liabilities right away, Hood..not so much, thats why he's fallen a ways in my eyes over the course of the yr.
Parker doesn't know what he's doing on Defense. Duke seemed like they were on tv every other day so I saw a crap load of him. He can check out on D at times. When Duke is playing Offense/Defense with him and Rodney Hood against 14th seeded Mercer, it makes you question him a bit. Now Parker's offensive game is so good He will prob be able to overcome his defensive liabilities right away, Hood..not so much, thats why he's fallen a ways in my eyes over the course of the yr.
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“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”
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I agree with INF on Smart. Rumor has it the magic would of taken him 1 last yr, wonder if they still are as infatuated with him this yr now have Ola. Could pair those two up in the backcourt.
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”
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Jabari Parker isn't worse on D than James Harden.
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Its tough to be worse on D then James Harden. That shouldn't be the standard
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”
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Huh?INFORMER wrote:One thing to keep in mind is that Jabari Parker is 100% coming out. I think that there's a chance he returns to Duke. But let's he doesn't.
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It should have read:carey wrote: Huh?
One thing to keep in mind is that Jabari Parker isn't 100% sure he is coming out. I think that there's a chance he returns to Duke. But let's say he doesn't.
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I'm not saying it should be the standard. I'm just saying, as bad as James Harden is on defense, he's the best player on a really good playoff team. And plenty of .netters were gaga about acquiring him.Sunsfan4life wrote:Its tough to be worse on D then James Harden. That shouldn't be the standard
The point? I don't think Parker's defensive inadequacies overshadow his vast ability and skills he's shown in several areas of the game. He's one of the top 3 prospects in the draft. Period. His discipline and awareness on the defensive end need considerable work, as his concept of rotations and team defense seem very below average. But I think that's correctable. And the fact that he's a presence on the defensive boards and mad plenty of plays protecting rim and blocking shots on weakside help shouldn't be overlooked.
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I'm not saying his defensive inadequacy will keep him from being an impact player in the league, even an all-star, but its one reason I'd consider Randle or Gordon over him. I still think he's going to be a very good-great player in the league and be thrilled if he wound up in a Phoenix uniform. But there is more a pause on him then their is on Embid or Wiggins. Jabari has the lowest ceiling of the 3 IMO.
First things first, he has to declare.
First things first, he has to declare.
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”
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Hey, its OLD SCHOOL...VIRT!!!!! SWING!
What up folks? LTNS! I'll drop a thread in general, want to see what everyone has been up to...been way long...
VT
What up folks? LTNS! I'll drop a thread in general, want to see what everyone has been up to...been way long...
VT
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VT! It has been too long. Cap is around as well.
I am around but not posting much...only when I have something intelligent to say.
Learning much by following the convo, though.
I am around but not posting much...only when I have something intelligent to say.
Learning much by following the convo, though.
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I agree patience is the key here. Continue to make good decisions and add good assets. Don't overpay/over reach trying to make it all happen this off-season
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Well, I am a Morris twins` fan (they are great teammates, very tough and proved this season they can be a valuable players in the NBA) but I would jump on this deal in a second.INFORMER wrote:Hope that Boston doesn't get a top 3 pick. If Danny Ainge is actually serious about being down on this draft class, if the Celtics pick isn't in the top 3, it may be available. Right now they're sitting at 5.Sunsfan4life wrote: Dream scnerio...14,17, and a Morris or 2 up into the top 5 or 6. Take Aaron Gordon
A deal of Morris Twins, #14 & #17 for Brandon Bass, Joel Anthony, and #5 may be possible.
Pick our future franchise PF with the 5th (my order right now: Randle/Vonleh/Gordon) and my boy KJ McDaniels with the Indy pick and I`d call upcoming draft succesfull one.
Bledsoe/Goodwin/Smith
Dragic/Green/Goodwin
Tucker/Green/McDaniels
Randle/Frye/Bass
Plumlee/Len/Frye
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Talty! Good to see ya, buddy. Welcome.Vladimir_Taltos wrote:Hey, its OLD SCHOOL...VIRT!!!!! SWING!
What up folks? LTNS! I'll drop a thread in general, want to see what everyone has been up to...been way long...
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If OKC calls and offers Westbrook for Dragic, what do you do?
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Not with the salary difference. If the two players had equal salaries, I might still take Dragic as he's proven himself a team player. Given his production per salary output ratio, in addition to his strong attachment to the team, Dragic's the one player I consider untouchable.
That being said, I wonder if Dragic should have the Brostrom procedure performed on his ankle. Repeated ankle sprains are indicative of partially or fully torn ATFL or CTFL ligaments. The Brostrom procedure reconstructs the torn ligaments, with the patient on crutches for a month, in a walking boot another 2 months, and working up to a full recovery in about 9 months. If Dragic were to have the procedure done, he'd be back up to full speed next January.
For the record, I had the procedure done on my right ankle at Stanford Medical Center, and have had excellent results as do 98% of the people who have the procedure done.
Where's Singh when you really could use his expertise? Anyone see him around?
That being said, I wonder if Dragic should have the Brostrom procedure performed on his ankle. Repeated ankle sprains are indicative of partially or fully torn ATFL or CTFL ligaments. The Brostrom procedure reconstructs the torn ligaments, with the patient on crutches for a month, in a walking boot another 2 months, and working up to a full recovery in about 9 months. If Dragic were to have the procedure done, he'd be back up to full speed next January.
For the record, I had the procedure done on my right ankle at Stanford Medical Center, and have had excellent results as do 98% of the people who have the procedure done.
Where's Singh when you really could use his expertise? Anyone see him around?
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We only have Dragic for one more year, then he'll opt out of his deal. Westbrook is signed for 3 more years. He'll make $17Mil in the final year of his deal though, and that's a lot of scratch for a guy that has a recurring knee issue.virtual9mm wrote:Not with the salary difference. If the two players had equal salaries, I might still take Dragic as he's proven himself a team player. Given his production per salary output ratio, in addition to his strong attachment to the team, Dragic's the one player I consider untouchable.
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I really dislike Westbrook. I know it's a little silly, but I'd much rather have Dragic than Westbrook on our team, and that's even before you start to consider salary. But stats don't really back me up on that one. It's a sentimental preference, a homer pick.
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At least youre honest about it. 