OT: Barkley Says Paying NCAA Athletes Is A Turrible Idea

[SDC]

It's ridiculous. In no way are they really student athletes. They just stay on campus and pretend to be students until it's time to drop out.

In fairness, most of them play by the rules, unfair as those rules may be to them.

nobody's forcing them to go to college. and nobody's forcing them to stay there.

[Cap]

It's ridiculous. In no way are they really student athletes. They just stay on campus and pretend to be students until it's time to drop out.

In fairness, most of them play by the rules, unfair as those rules may be to them.

nobody's forcing them to go to college. and nobody's forcing them to stay there.

Well, the NCAA does kind of have a monopoly in this country. Sure, the players have the option of moving to Europe or China if they want to get paid for their play...

[Flagrant Fowl]

College athletes should not be paid. Receiving a full scholarship is payment enough given the ever increasing tuition prices (a bigger issue, IMO).

However, athletes should be allowed to be compensated for their likeness. It's complete BS that a university can sell jerseys without the player being compensated whatsoever. That revenue is not tied to the cost of the scholarship.

[SDC]

It's ridiculous. In no way are they really student athletes. They just stay on campus and pretend to be students until it's time to drop out.

In fairness, most of them play by the rules, unfair as those rules may be to them.

nobody's forcing them to go to college. and nobody's forcing them to stay there.

Well, the NCAA does kind of have a monopoly in this country. Sure, the players have the option of moving to Europe or China if they want to get paid for their play...

dont forget the D League.

and why would universities pay salaries to these players when less than 1 half of 1% of them will make it to the nba? most of them arent THAT good.

[SDC]

College athletes should not be paid. Receiving a full scholarship is payment enough given the ever increasing tuition prices (a bigger issue, IMO).

However, athletes should be allowed to be compensated for their likeness. It's complete BS that a university can sell jerseys without the player being compensated whatsoever. That revenue is not tied to the cost of the scholarship.

are these college athletes not allowed to make deals with nike and mcdonalds?

as for profiting from their likeness, my advice to the NCAA basketball is to just sell the jerseys without the players name.

[Superbone]

It's ridiculous. In no way are they really student athletes. They just stay on campus and pretend to be students until it's time to drop out.

In fairness, most of them play by the rules, unfair as those rules may be to them.

nobody's forcing them to go to college. and nobody's forcing them to stay there.

Well, the NCAA does kind of have a monopoly in this country. Sure, the players have the option of moving to Europe or China if they want to get paid for their play...

dont forget the D League.

and why would universities pay salaries to these players when less than 1 half of 1% of them will make it to the nba? most of them arent THAT good.

And yet they can afford to pay their coaches millions of dollars per season. Hmm.

[Indy]

Yeah that's just a bad argument. It has nothing to do with if these kids will play in the NBA. It has to do with the revenue they generate for their school.

[Superbone]

Yeah that's just a bad argument. It has nothing to do with if these kids will play in the NBA. It has to do with the revenue they generate for their school.

Bingo! (Indy wins again!)

[SDC]

Yeah that's just a bad argument. It has nothing to do with if these kids will play in the NBA. It has to do with the revenue they generate for their school.

even if the colleges used only caucasian, average, below the rim type players to populate their roster, the march madness would still make money and be seen by millions in the US. people watch these march madness games not because it's the best basketball in the world, but because the kids play hard, even though the games sometimes arent pretty from a basketball standpoint, and because the single elimination format creates exciting upsets.

today's fans and alumni have less attachment to the current crop of college stars (especially those one and done types). they play for one year and the next year they are gone. i wouldnt want to pay them any salaries at all.

[SDC]

nobody's forcing them to go to college. and nobody's forcing them to stay there.

Well, the NCAA does kind of have a monopoly in this country. Sure, the players have the option of moving to Europe or China if they want to get paid for their play...

dont forget the D League.

and why would universities pay salaries to these players when less than 1 half of 1% of them will make it to the nba? most of them arent THAT good.

And yet they can afford to pay their coaches millions of dollars per season. Hmm.

hmmm yourself. the colleges pay these coaches millions because they know how to recruit star players. it has little to do with coaching at this point. john callipari is a failure at the pro level, but the guy knows how assemble talents for one year stints in college.

[Dan H]

College athletes should not be paid. Receiving a full scholarship is payment enough given the ever increasing tuition prices (a bigger issue, IMO).

However, athletes should be allowed to be compensated for their likeness. It's complete BS that a university can sell jerseys without the player being compensated whatsoever. That revenue is not tied to the cost of the scholarship.

are these college athletes not allowed to make deals with nike and mcdonalds?

as for profiting from their likeness, my advice to the NCAA basketball is to just sell the jerseys without the players name.

Pretty sure they aren't allowed to profit one iota from their affiliation with college sports. I'm not a big fan but I believe that's how it works, isn't it?

[Indy]

Yes. You are not allowed to make any money whatsoever from their college sports association.

[SDC]

Yes. You are not allowed to make any money whatsoever from their college sports association.

even if you dont mention the college or NCAA sport you are affiliated with? what is the reasoning for this?

[Cap]

Yes. You are not allowed to make any money whatsoever from their college sports association.

even if you dont mention the college or NCAA sport you are affiliated with? what is the reasoning for this?

You are also not allowed to make any money from sports, even if it's not associated with the NCAA. You lose your "amateur status." Some nonsense about amateurism building character. Really just a way to keep the slaves powerless.

[Indy]

And to keep "professionals" out of collegiate athletics. Pfft.

[Dan H]

Yes. You are not allowed to make any money whatsoever from their college sports association.

even if you dont mention the college or NCAA sport you are affiliated with? what is the reasoning for this?

You are also not allowed to make any money from sports, even if it's not associated with the NCAA. You lose your "amateur status." Some nonsense about amateurism building character. Really just a way to keep the slaves powerless.

How does it work when guys are multi-sport athletes? Haven't there been guys who've played minor league baseball and college football at the same time?

[SDC]

Yes. You are not allowed to make any money whatsoever from their college sports association.

even if you dont mention the college or NCAA sport you are affiliated with? what is the reasoning for this?

You are also not allowed to make any money from sports, even if it's not associated with the NCAA. You lose your "amateur status." Some nonsense about amateurism building character. Really just a way to keep the slaves powerless.

but what if it's not related to sports? what if you are not wearing any jerseys or the name of your college is not mentioned in the commercials? the problem is, being associated with a popular college program helps their exposure. you wont get that going straight to dleague.

and remove the exciting single elimination ncaa march madness. does college basketball games or the regional tournaments make enough money for tv or is worth watching?

(england's FA cup is jealous of the March Madness)

[SDC]

And to keep "professionals" out of collegiate athletics. Pfft.

so the solution is to turn the colleges into a livelihood program for mostly mediocre basketball players? remember, there are only 450 slots in the nba, and only around 15% is available for them.

[SDC]

and i dont get this slave thing. if you are any good, you can always get out after one year. you used the ncaa to gain exposure on your way to the nba while the college did not get enough out of their time and investment put into you.

[Cap]

The problem is, a whole class of people is not getting paid because a monopolist has set that policy.

Don't give us that D-league crap. The NCAA is a monopoly. Its presence basically eliminates other non-NBA basketball as a serious moneymaking venture in this country. If you want to get fair pay for play when you're not at NBA level, or are subject to the NBA's age policy, you have to leave the country. If you want to stay here, you're stuck with what the NCAA system is offering: free tuition and exposure for your play.

Nobody's saying every crappy NCAA player deserves guaranteed riches that will bankrupt their colleges. Just remove the restrictions on compensating them and let them get what the market will bear.