Game Day (Preseason): Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby OE32 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:55 pm

Ring_Wanted wrote:
OE32 wrote:We received a second for taking on Troy Daniels's contract. That was $3.75m. I think the teams with cap space are playing hardball. And teams that are competing may like Chandler, but certainly not at that $$$. IDK. I don't much care. This is what I prefer to see on the court. I've lost interest in Bled and Chandler in particular... note that I don't mind them as much as I did Tucker or either Morris while they were here.

Brandon Knight is much less of a concern now that we don't even have to stock his locker, imo.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I've wanted to move Bledsoe and Chandler for some time now. Chandler can be gone for a mere expiring if you can find one, I don't care either. But Bledsoe is worth at least a decent 1stR, and come draft time you know you always want that mid first to gamble on a less talked abou prospect. It's one thing to rebuild and another to squander a tangible asset. I believe he will be traded at the deadline unless (god forbid), we 'surprise' our way to 39 wins.


In my experience, preseason is a pretty strong indicator of how the beginning of your season will go. The 04-05 Suns kicked butt in the preseason, and we all discounted it until we were up nearly 20 in the first quarter of our regular season game. The Year of the Dragon was foreshadowed by a strong preseason showing. T***y P****r's utter stupidity was obvious as soon as our public scrimmage in Tucson (I know, because I was there that year, and I was shocked). And so far, what we've shown in preseason is that the sky is way, way, way higher than the ceiling is for this team this season. We're going to stink, at least at first. On the other hand, I'm convinced that Josh Jackson has perhaps the best shot at ROY. ROY is a pretty strong indicator of superstardom, and so... yeah. Feeling pretty good as a Suns fan, atm.
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby Ring_Wanted » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:11 pm

OE32 wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
OE32 wrote:We received a second for taking on Troy Daniels's contract. That was $3.75m. I think the teams with cap space are playing hardball. And teams that are competing may like Chandler, but certainly not at that $$$. IDK. I don't much care. This is what I prefer to see on the court. I've lost interest in Bled and Chandler in particular... note that I don't mind them as much as I did Tucker or either Morris while they were here.

Brandon Knight is much less of a concern now that we don't even have to stock his locker, imo.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I've wanted to move Bledsoe and Chandler for some time now. Chandler can be gone for a mere expiring if you can find one, I don't care either. But Bledsoe is worth at least a decent 1stR, and come draft time you know you always want that mid first to gamble on a less talked abou prospect. It's one thing to rebuild and another to squander a tangible asset. I believe he will be traded at the deadline unless (god forbid), we 'surprise' our way to 39 wins.


In my experience, preseason is a pretty strong indicator of how the beginning of your season will go. The 04-05 Suns kicked butt in the preseason, and we all discounted it until we were up nearly 20 in the first quarter of our regular season game. The Year of the Dragon was foreshadowed by a strong preseason showing. T***y P****r's utter stupidity was obvious as soon as our public scrimmage in Tucson (I know, because I was there that year, and I was shocked). And so far, what we've shown in preseason is that the sky is way, way, way higher than the ceiling is for this team this season. We're going to stink, at least at first. On the other hand, I'm convinced that Josh Jackson has perhaps the best shot at ROY. ROY is a pretty strong indicator of superstardom, and so... yeah. Feeling pretty good as a Suns fan, atm.

I can share many of those feelings. We are going to be absolutely terrible but this season is not about that. To me Jackson is a stud and his pairing with Booker could be amazing. I am high on Warren as always (but once again, weird injury keeps him from having any continuity). I even love Sauce as a player, not just a story. Ulis has the making of a nice backup PG. On the other hand, we could have wasted two drafts in 2013 (who cares at this point anyway) and 2016, we've suffered a ton of dumb and ugly basketball (and there is more of that coming our way). If 2018 delivers a franchise altering big man, we are 'set' for the future, but can't fault people for being short on patience.
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby Superbone » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:20 pm

OE32 wrote:Right now, I could do without Bledsoe on this roster. It's easy to forget how great a player is when they're not doing well... I know that. But I think Bled's a scorer who needs shots to be effective, and we have enough of those guys in Booker, Jackson and Warren. So when he's not playing hard or well, I get salty.

I rarely hear about McDonough entertaining trading Bledsoe. The only time I've heard it was during the possible Irving sweepstakes. He seems to be enamored with him even though he's never been a very good fit on this basketball team.
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby Split T » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:33 pm

Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby Wally_West » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:42 pm

Split T wrote:Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?


I know Mori’s answer!
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Postby O_Gardino » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:44 pm

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Postby OE32 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:47 pm

O_Gardino wrote:Magic Johnson


Can't argue with that.
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby In2ition » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:03 pm

OE32 wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:
OE32 wrote:We received a second for taking on Troy Daniels's contract. That was $3.75m. I think the teams with cap space are playing hardball. And teams that are competing may like Chandler, but certainly not at that $$$. IDK. I don't much care. This is what I prefer to see on the court. I've lost interest in Bled and Chandler in particular... note that I don't mind them as much as I did Tucker or either Morris while they were here.

Brandon Knight is much less of a concern now that we don't even have to stock his locker, imo.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I've wanted to move Bledsoe and Chandler for some time now. Chandler can be gone for a mere expiring if you can find one, I don't care either. But Bledsoe is worth at least a decent 1stR, and come draft time you know you always want that mid first to gamble on a less talked abou prospect. It's one thing to rebuild and another to squander a tangible asset. I believe he will be traded at the deadline unless (god forbid), we 'surprise' our way to 39 wins.


In my experience, preseason is a pretty strong indicator of how the beginning of your season will go. The 04-05 Suns kicked butt in the preseason, and we all discounted it until we were up nearly 20 in the first quarter of our regular season game. The Year of the Dragon was foreshadowed by a strong preseason showing. T***y P****r's utter stupidity was obvious as soon as our public scrimmage in Tucson (I know, because I was there that year, and I was shocked). And so far, what we've shown in preseason is that the sky is way, way, way higher than the ceiling is for this team this season. We're going to stink, at least at first. On the other hand, I'm convinced that Josh Jackson has perhaps the best shot at ROY. ROY is a pretty strong indicator of superstardom, and so... yeah. Feeling pretty good as a Suns fan, atm.

Seriously, I remember the '04-'05 Suns preseason and being so stoked, because I could see how they were playing and just boat racing teams. I knew in my heart that it was going to happen in the season, I made a bet with my in-laws loudmouthed neighbor that the Suns were going to win more games that season. I was so confident that I even said that they would win more by the All-Star game than they did the entire season prior. Damn, that steak was good and seeing him eat his words.
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby Marty [Mori Chu] » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:14 pm

Split T wrote:Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?


Of course I'll say my boy Ricky Rubio. But Goran Dragic would have been quite good. :-)
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Postby carey » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:15 pm

Wally_West wrote:
Split T wrote:Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?


I know Mori’s answer!


Ricky Curry?
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Postby Cap » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:22 pm

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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby ShelC » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:50 pm

We need a veteran PG to put it all together. Chandler's good for the lockerroom but he can't take charge on the court and Bledsoe's never been that guy. I feel like Ulis has more leadership presence and confidence out there than Bledsoe.
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Postby n4th4n » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:26 pm

I honestly think coaching is a much bigger issue for us that PG play at the moment.
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Postby Superbone » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:08 pm

n4th4n wrote:I honestly think coaching is a much bigger issue for us that PG play at the moment.

Apples and oranges. I agree with Shel that the team looks much better when Ulis is running the show. Heck, they may even look better when James is running it.
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Postby Flagrant Fowl » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:26 pm

I like Bledsoe as a player, just not on this roster. He needs to be the 3rd or 4th best guy in a lineup to see his value.
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Postby O_Gardino » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:43 am

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I like Bledsoe as a player, just not on this roster. He needs to be the 3rd or 4th best guy in a lineup to see his value.


I agree.
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Postby Nodack » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:29 pm

Split T wrote:Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?


We will never have the ideal PG on this team. Even Nash was ripped apart on a daily basis during his prime. It's what we do here.
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Re: Game Day: Blazers (3-1) @ Suns (1-2), Wed 10/11/17

Postby Marty [Mori Chu] » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:32 pm

Nodack wrote:
Split T wrote:Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?


We will never have the ideal PG on this team. Even Nash was ripped apart on a daily basis during his prime. It's what we do here.


That's an exaggeration. The fans rightfully loved Nash and trusted him to run the team.
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Postby The Bobster » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:19 pm

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Nodack wrote:
Split T wrote:Who do people think we be the ideal PG on this team?


We will never have the ideal PG on this team. Even Nash was ripped apart on a daily basis during his prime. It's what we do here.


That's an exaggeration. The fans rightfully loved Nash and trusted him to run the team.


And they were rightfully critical of his defensive play.
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Postby carey » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:14 pm

I don't recall ripping Nash. I never cared that he couldn't defend. He was a wizard on offense.
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