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I'll take Jackson in the Jackson vs Isaac vs Tatum in 5 years wager.

Split T wrote:I'll take Jackson in the Jackson vs Isaac vs Tatum in 5 years wager.

Same.

I think the chances are that Jackson has a long, steady career as a player. But nothing special. I think his floor is well above the floor for Isaac. I just think there is a higher ceiling for Isaac, and am willing to take a gamble on that instead of drafting another ho-hum pick in the top 5 that turns out to be a middle-of-the-road player in 5 years *cough*Len*cough.

That's understandable, I'm actually pretty high on Isaac as well. As for Jackson, I look at him like a Michael Kidd Gilchrist or Justise Winslow, only he's skilled with the ball.

Kidd-Gilchrist was the 2ND pick in the draft because he was a great athlete with good size who played all out and at the very least would be a great defender. His offensive skills haven't ever developed, but he's a great defender/rebounder. Jackson has all those good qualities and he can also handle the ball, create his own shot, and create for others. Whether his jump shot is legit or not is a real question, but it's much further along than MKG.

He may never be a star, in fact I see him realistically ending up as a #2 guy, but put him on the right team with the right players and he'll be very successful.

What are the parameters to determine who is the best of the 3? All-star apprearances? Stats? Team success? I think Jackson and Issac will have similiar affects on their team as 2 way wings while I think Tatum will end up being the man on whatever team drafts him, how do we pick the winner?

Stats are tricky. We could do some kind of all encompassing stat, all star/all-NBA selections, or we could just have the board vote on who they think is the best player.

I tried to promote my "NBA Draft Power Rankings" game on ASFN last year - it didn't take off, probably because I over thought it and made it too complicated, but the refreshed idea is good I think:

The Game

1. Players of the NBA Draft Power Rankings game give their opinions on draft prospects that are found within arbitrary draft brackets.

2. Each draft prospect selected is scored out of 7 (7 being perennial all star, 1 being a bust) at the end of the first year.

3. This score is then updated again at the end of every subsequent year - a score can be revised upwards or downwards.

4. Every draft prospect you select in this draft, and every subsequent draft, will count towards your score.

5. Therefore, each player of the NBA Draft Power Rankings game will generate a cumulative average score in order to make valid comparisons with players that join in subsequent years.


The idea is to see if anyone on this board has an eye for talent over an above the 'experts' (Draftexpress.com is the reference site, with NBADraft.net also 'playing') - 10 or 20 years of data should start to throw up some trends, and if you're any good then maybe there's a job for you in the FO:

- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... u-job.html
- https://www.gamespot.com/articles/meet- ... 0-6419397/


Arbitrary brackets for this year would be something like:

1. Pick the three best players in this draft.
2. Pick the best player out of Jackson, Tatum and Isaac.
3. Pick one bust from the top 10 (inverse score out of 7 awarded).
4. Pick the best player non-lottery first rounder.
5. Pick the best 2nd rounder.


I'm happy to do the scoring if you're happy with the game? We'd have to put some thought into things like career ending injuries, injuries in general, end of career tail offs etc but I think the basis is there and we can work on specifics as and when they crop up.

Well that sunk this thread like a lead balloon.

I really should have profiled this refreshed version of the game on ASFN where I started it, but i guess it was like a trial run of sorts. That being said, I'm definitely less enthusiastic about it this year than last so I'll consider the cold, hard blank a blessing in disguise..

The more I watch video on Monk, the better I like Fox. I know I've been tough on Fox's passing, but you can see him making some good passes in the Monk highlight videos. Maybe Fox is a better passer than I thought. A lot of smart people like him.

Ball
Jackson
Fox
Isaac
Monk

Josh Jackson
Jayson Tatum
De'Aaron Fox
Lonzo Ball
Jonathan Isaac

Jonathan Isaac
Frank Ntilikina
Jayson Tatum
Lonzo Ball
Malik Monk

** EDIT: Removed Fultz from the top, Ntilikina +1, added Ball

Lonzo Ball just moved up on my list because of THIS:
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JCSunsfan wrote:Lonzo Ball just moved up on my list because of THIS:
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Don't get Carey on your ass! I said the same thing about liking Ball better after the Foot Locker piece.

I don't care if you like him! It's totally cool, but I wanted to know why. The fact that he's slightly self deprecating in that ad? That whole thing is part of Lavar's plan imho. Just be careful what you fall for.

carey wrote:I don't care if you like him! It's totally cool, but I wanted to know why. The fact that he's slightly self deprecating in that ad? That whole thing is part of Lavar's plan imho. Just be careful what you fall for.

Oh. I am sure Lavar loves that ad.

There's no way that ad happens without LaVar's approval. We all know that. It's just the first personality I've seen from the kid. At least he has a good sense of humor as well as very good comic dead pan delivery which we all know is paramount to being a great basketball player.

carey wrote:I don't care if you like him! It's totally cool, but I wanted to know why. The fact that he's slightly self deprecating in that ad? That whole thing is part of Lavar's plan imho. Just be careful what you fall for.

Muhuuhaha!

Better than the outakes of Jordan's, "Is it in you?" 500 times to get ot right

Jayson Tatum
Jonathan Isaac
Frank Ntilikina
Dennis Smith
De'Aaron Fox

Atreides wrote:Jayson Tatum
Jonathan Isaac
Frank Ntilikina
Dennis Smith
De'Aaron Fox

Is this in order?

It seems that our foreign members are higher on French Frank than most.