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Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:55 am
by ShelC
Agreed, they need shooting and some defense but I also forgot they have Wilson Chandler to work back into the mix.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:44 am
by O_Gardino
I don't think you guys have to worry about anyone trading for Jackson.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm
by Mori Chu
In2ition wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:49 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:11 am
I really hope we don't trade Josh Jackson for Fultz. Jackson at least has some of the bones of a good NBA player. I could picture him becoming good in a few years, or at least becoming valuable enough to trade to another team. Fultz, no way. He'll be out of the league in a year and a half, guaranteed.
If it's anyone, I think it would be Ariza that goes to Philly for Fultz.
What salary ballast would we take back?

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:11 pm
by JeremyG
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:49 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:11 am
I really hope we don't trade Josh Jackson for Fultz. Jackson at least has some of the bones of a good NBA player. I could picture him becoming good in a few years, or at least becoming valuable enough to trade to another team. Fultz, no way. He'll be out of the league in a year and a half, guaranteed.
If it's anyone, I think it would be Ariza that goes to Philly for Fultz.
What salary ballast would we take back?
That's the thing with all this talk about trading Ariza. Who is gonna trade for him without us having to take on salary that extends beyond this season? For example, I don't think Houston even has that type of expiring contract to make it work.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:03 pm
by Mori Chu
I just don't think Ariza is going to be a trade asset. The way these things work is that the player holds out and asks for a buyout. Then we buy him out for, say, 2/3 or 1/2 of his salary to go away, then the next day he signs with the Lakers or 76ers or whomever. Tyson Chicken is a good example of this. Nobody was calling to offer us any assets for him; they just waited us out until we let him go.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:04 pm
by JCSunsfan
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:03 pm
I just don't think Ariza is going to be a trade asset. The way these things work is that the player holds out and asks for a buyout. Then we buy him out for, say, 2/3 or 1/2 of his salary to go away, then the next day he signs with the Lakers or 76ers or whomever. Tyson Chicken is a good example of this. Nobody was calling to offer us any assets for him; they just waited us out until we let him go.
Ariza's salary would be an asset in a bigger trade for a better player--maybe someone like Kemba or Lillard. I am not saying we could pull that off, just saying that is the situation in which he would be useful. The primary assets being traded in that scenario would be picks. Ariza just helps salaries to balance.

Other than that, his expiring is valuable to us.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:57 pm
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:49 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:11 am
I really hope we don't trade Josh Jackson for Fultz. Jackson at least has some of the bones of a good NBA player. I could picture him becoming good in a few years, or at least becoming valuable enough to trade to another team. Fultz, no way. He'll be out of the league in a year and a half, guaranteed.
If it's anyone, I think it would be Ariza that goes to Philly for Fultz.
What salary ballast would we take back?
With Philly we could do wilson Chandler as the main salary coming back...he's expiring.

Houston isn't a viable trade option unless we take back salary in 2019

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:40 pm
by TOO
Kemba Walker has 58 right now in a game going into overtime. 60 burger inbound.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:45 pm
by bajanguy008
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:40 pm
Kemba Walker has 58 right now in a game going into overtime. 60 burger inbound.
definitely gonna watch that replay tomorrow
Jimmy was clutch too

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:47 pm
by bajanguy008
Warriors lose again....
No Steph , No Draymond tho but either way I really not buying that things are bout to unravel with them

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:57 pm
by Superbone
bajanguy008 wrote:Warriors lose again....
No Steph , No Draymond tho but either way I really not buying that things are bout to unravel with them
Big win for Dallas. Doncic with a big shot and pressure free throws down the stretch.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:50 am
by Shabazz
Split T wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:57 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:49 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:11 am
I really hope we don't trade Josh Jackson for Fultz. Jackson at least has some of the bones of a good NBA player. I could picture him becoming good in a few years, or at least becoming valuable enough to trade to another team. Fultz, no way. He'll be out of the league in a year and a half, guaranteed.
If it's anyone, I think it would be Ariza that goes to Philly for Fultz.
What salary ballast would we take back?
With Philly we could do wilson Chandler as the main salary coming back...he's expiring.

Houston isn't a viable trade option unless we take back salary in 2019
What about to Indiana for Tyreke?

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:57 am
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:50 am
Split T wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:57 pm
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:39 pm
In2ition wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:49 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:11 am
I really hope we don't trade Josh Jackson for Fultz. Jackson at least has some of the bones of a good NBA player. I could picture him becoming good in a few years, or at least becoming valuable enough to trade to another team. Fultz, no way. He'll be out of the league in a year and a half, guaranteed.
If it's anyone, I think it would be Ariza that goes to Philly for Fultz.
What salary ballast would we take back?
With Philly we could do wilson Chandler as the main salary coming back...he's expiring.

Houston isn't a viable trade option unless we take back salary in 2019
What about to Indiana for Tyreke?
Let's do it! Do you have Sarver's number?

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:54 am
by Cap
Superbone wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:57 pm
bajanguy008 wrote:Warriors lose again....
No Steph , No Draymond tho but either way I really not buying that things are bout to unravel with them
Big win for Dallas. Doncic with a big shot and pressure free throws down the stretch.
Meanwhile, Trae Young is really struggling and the Hawks have got to be second guessing that trade.

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Date            Tm         Opp GS    MP FG FGA  FG% 3P 3PA  3P% FT FTA   FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS GmSc +/-
2018-11-13     ATL GSW  L (-7)  1 27:30  2  12 .167  0   5 .000  0         0   0   5   5   9   3   0   3  2   4  3.4 -11
2018-11-15     ATL DEN L (-45)  1 26:36  2  11 .182  0   4 .000  2   2 1.000   0   2   2   5   1   0   5  1   6 -1.2 -22
2018-11-17     ATL IND  L (-8)  1 23:43  3  11 .273  0   5 .000  3   4  .750   0   1   1   4   1   0   3  2   9  2.4 -14
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Generated 11/18/2018.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:50 am
by TOO
To be fair, everyone, including us, will be second guessing not taking Doncic. Especially in the short term. For a guy who drafted Bender and double Bogdan to pass on Doncic after hiring his national team coach still puzzles me.

Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:14 am
by JeremyG
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:50 am
To be fair, everyone, including us, will be second guessing not taking Doncic. Especially in the short term. For a guy who drafted Bender and double Bogdan to pass on Doncic after hiring his national team coach still puzzles me.
Sarver literally watched the Suns not have a center for 50 years. There was zero chance they were picking anyone else.