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Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:27 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:25 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:21 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:18 pm
Agreed, I still maintain they are just posturing for the best deal and know Booker is untouchable…he’s most likely the biggest reason we are KD’s top choice.
But if KD is as great as you're claiming, then why should Booker be untouchable?
Well on paper he’s not, but it comes down to KD’s wants. KD likely doesn’t want the suns if Booker isn’t here. It’s like the KG-Marion stuff…KG wanted to play with Amare and didn’t want the trade if Amare was part of it, that’s why it had to be Marion.
Yeah, nobody on the team is untouchable. I would trade anyone to get better. But there is no reason KD wants to come here if he doesn't get to play with Book and CP3 and be coached by Monty. That is all part of it.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:29 pm
by AmareIsGod
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:21 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:18 pm
Agreed, I still maintain they are just posturing for the best deal and know Booker is untouchable…he’s most likely the biggest reason we are KD’s top choice.
But if KD is as great as you're claiming, then why should Booker be untouchable?
Why are you playing this game? Booker is better than Ayton. Outside of Booker, you trade anyone else to get KD. KD is great but has about a 2-year championship window. Booker is a staple of this organization and a draw for other players LIKE KD. KD wants to come here BECAUSE of Booker. It's not that hard to figure out.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:29 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:25 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:21 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:18 pm
Agreed, I still maintain they are just posturing for the best deal and know Booker is untouchable…he’s most likely the biggest reason we are KD’s top choice.
But if KD is as great as you're claiming, then why should Booker be untouchable?
Well on paper he’s not, but it comes down to KD’s wants. KD likely doesn’t want the suns if Booker isn’t here. It’s like the KG-Marion stuff…KG wanted to play with Amare and didn’t want the trade if Amare was part of it, that’s why it had to be Marion.
That makes sense. I just meant from our perspective. And I do think that Booker for KD would be an upgrade for at least 1 year if KD stayed healthy.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:29 pm
by Split T
The real reason we released that we hate the draft article haha
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:31 pm
by JeremyG
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:29 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:21 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:18 pm
Agreed, I still maintain they are just posturing for the best deal and know Booker is untouchable…he’s most likely the biggest reason we are KD’s top choice.
But if KD is as great as you're claiming, then why should Booker be untouchable?
Why are you playing this game? Booker is better than Ayton. Outside of Booker, you trade anyone else to get KD. KD is great but has about a 2-year championship window. Booker is a staple of this organization and a draw for other players LIKE KD. KD wants to come here BECAUSE of Booker. It's not that hard to figure out.
Booker is not better than Bridges, Ayton, and Johnson.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:32 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
If James Jones is able to land this KD trade plane, can we give the guy a little slack?
For as much as we all like to armchair GM, he might just be good at his job.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:35 pm
by JeremyG
Looks like I'm not in much of a minority.
EDIT: It's now 60/40.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:37 pm
by Indy
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:31 pm
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:29 pm
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:21 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:18 pm
Agreed, I still maintain they are just posturing for the best deal and know Booker is untouchable…he’s most likely the biggest reason we are KD’s top choice.
But if KD is as great as you're claiming, then why should Booker be untouchable?
Why are you playing this game? Booker is better than Ayton. Outside of Booker, you trade anyone else to get KD. KD is great but has about a 2-year championship window. Booker is a staple of this organization and a draw for other players LIKE KD. KD wants to come here BECAUSE of Booker. It's not that hard to figure out.
Booker is not better than Bridges, Ayton, and Johnson.
Yeah he is. You don't get a two top 50 players and a top 100 player for a top 15 player. And Book creates more shots for his teammates than all 3 combined. If you want to try and use that logic, 8 bench players are better than KD.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:39 pm
by Indy
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:35 pm
Looks like I'm not in much of a minority.
EDIT: It's now 60/40.
Yeah, usually fans over value their team's players.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:40 pm
by specialsauce
I voted no.
I would trade 2/3 of Mikal, Cam J and DA with 2-3 first rounders.
We have to field a team still. And I would love to hang on to at least one young player with potential beyond 1-2 years.
Re: Is KD coming to PHX?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:41 pm
by INFORMER
Wally_West wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:37 pm
This makes it near impossible for a heat deal, right?
I think so. I don't think Tyler Herro plus picks will be enough for Brooklyn.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:41 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Fuck potential.
It's Kevin Durant.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:47 pm
by INFORMER
JeremyG wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:09 pm
Gambo says Nets do NOT want Ayton.
I don't blame them.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:48 pm
by Split T
Does anyone know exactly how many picks we can trade?
You can trade picks out to 7 years, correct? So 2023, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, and 29. You can’t trade picks in consecutive years though, so does that take 2023 out because we traded 2022? Or does that not matter after the 2022 draft happens? Because we can only trade 3 picks if we can’t trade 2023.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm
by The Bobster
I probably go two of Johnson, Ayton and Bridges and picks, but not all three.
I'd offer Ayton, Crowder, Johnson and as many picks and filler as it would take.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:49 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I wonder why Brooklyn apparently doesn't want Ayton.
Could it be another team doesn't want to pay him what his agent has convinced him he's worth?
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:50 pm
by The Bobster
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:48 pm
Does anyone know exactly how many picks we can trade?
You can trade picks out to 7 years, correct? So 2023, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, and 29. You can’t trade picks in consecutive years though, so does that take 2023 out because we traded 2022? Or does that not matter after the 2022 draft happens? Because we can only trade 3 picks if we can’t trade 2023.
They can trade 2023 I believe.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:51 pm
by bajanguy008
I thought the Jake Fischer guy was usually sharp on trade stuff but I keep seeing him quoted as a source with Book or Bam in the proposed Nets deal.
He seems to be all over the place with deals which others have said can't work
I have to be responsible and nap before work
Who knows what I gonna wake up to
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:54 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I wouldn't get too caught up on the Designated Rookie Extension stuff.
The Nets can still trade Kyrie before KD, which would likely clear a path for them to acquire a guy like Adebayo.
Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:55 pm
by Split T
The Bobster wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:50 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jun 30, 2022 2:48 pm
Does anyone know exactly how many picks we can trade?
You can trade picks out to 7 years, correct? So 2023, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, and 29. You can’t trade picks in consecutive years though, so does that take 2023 out because we traded 2022? Or does that not matter after the 2022 draft happens? Because we can only trade 3 picks if we can’t trade 2023.
They can trade 2023 I believe.
That’s good to hear.
