Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Discussion of the league and of our favorite team.
User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8404
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by INFORMER »

Sunsfan4life wrote: Thought he could of done better then James Young(Gary Harris?)
Agreed.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8404
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by INFORMER »

OE32 wrote:So, McD calls Wright the "best backup center in the league."
LOL for a couple reasons. 1) Didn't we have a poster EMPHATICALLY state that Brandan Wright is NOT a center? Seems like "McMiracle" disagrees. 2) Looks like "McMiracle" shares my fondness for exaggeration.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
Ring_Wanted
Posts: 5011
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:47 am

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Ring_Wanted »

He is a C, at least by his recent past in Dallas. Maybe he is not 7'1 and doesn't have the typical weight of a C, but that's where Carlisle has used him and where he has found his success.

Thinking about his fit on the Suns, I believe he can play along either Kieff or Len.

User avatar
OE32
Posts: 1605
Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:43 am

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by OE32 »

Ring_Wanted wrote:Thinking about his fit on the Suns, I believe he can play along either Kieff or Len.
Best part about this. We can go big if we want.

I feel terrible for Plum, though. To go from surprise starter to an invite with the National Team, then dropped to third string on your own squad in little over three months. Brutal.

User avatar
Mori Chu
Posts: 22036
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:05 am

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Mori Chu »

I think he's a PF/C and that we already have two adequate rotation centers, so he should be a PF for us except in cases of foul trouble/injury. Dallas ran him at center because they had no backup whatsoever for Chandler, and before Chandler arrived, their center situation was even worse. Wright could start next to Dirk at C and everything worked out fine. But I don't think he's a center by default.

User avatar
Cap
Posts: 8852
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Cap »

OE32 wrote:So, McD calls Wright the "best backup center in the league." Whoa. Looks like Miles has gone from starter to out of the rotation. :shock:
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Who will miss him, honestly?
Anybody have him on a fantasy team?

User avatar
carey
Posts: 12061
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by carey »

Mori Chu wrote:I think he's a PF/C and that we already have two adequate rotation centers, so he should be a PF for us except in cases of foul trouble/injury. Dallas ran him at center because they had no backup whatsoever for Chandler, and before Chandler arrived, their center situation was even worse. Wright could start next to Dirk at C and everything worked out fine. But I don't think he's a center by default.
Every indication is the Suns are going to use him at backup C and that he's taking Miles minutes. Basically straight from McDonough's mouth. Also Coro and Dave King (2 beat reporters) are saying he'll purely play C.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

User avatar
Cap
Posts: 8852
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Cap »

The thing is, Miles is good enough to play in this league and shouldn't be rotting at the end of our bench waiting for somebody to get hurt. If we're not going to play him, we should look into possibly trading him to somebody who will.

User avatar
Cap
Posts: 8852
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Cap »

On second thought, scratch that. Depth is a good problem to have.

We'll still find opportunities for Plumlee to play, if not in every game, and help keep the other guys fresh. With Len's injury history and Keef's apparent determination to get himself suspended, we still need the PlumDog.

User avatar
virtual9mm
Posts: 2044
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:24 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by virtual9mm »

Mori Chu wrote:I think he's a PF/C and that we already have two adequate rotation centers, so he should be a PF for us except in cases of foul trouble/injury. Dallas ran him at center because they had no backup whatsoever for Chandler, and before Chandler arrived, their center situation was even worse. Wright could start next to Dirk at C and everything worked out fine. But I don't think he's a center by default.
The problem is spacing. By all accounts, Wright is not a knock-down shooter. I can very easily see him playing next to Kieff or Mook, but I am having a harder time seeing him playing next to Len. At least, I don't want to see Len becoming mainly a jump-shooter on offense.

I wonder if the Suns can go back to a SSOL offense circa the KT era. Run a pick and roll between a PG (Dragic or Bledsoe) and Wright, while the other PG/SG and the SF are spacing in the corners. Kieff or Mook could play the role of KT or even Frye. If the PnR breaks down, give it to Kieff for one of those contested fadeaways that somehow seem to go in, or pass it to the other PG to penetrate and create.

If Len keeps on hitting that top-of-the-key jumper on a consistent basis, I could very well change my mind. I'm not sure that I want Len to become a Yao-type jump shooter on offense, though. Bad habits for a big man who should be dominating inside.

User avatar
Sunsfan4life
Posts: 3010
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:16 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Sunsfan4life »

If they found a way for Shav to get spot minutes, they can find a way for Plumlee to.

The suns want there center to have the wingspan to be able to alter as many shots as possible. Wright has about the same wingspan as Len (7'4).
Last edited by Sunsfan4life on Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
“Kobe had said (after the play) I wasn’t hugged enough as a child,” Bell recalled. “My mom kind of found him after the instance and we had beat them and offered him a hug in the bowels of the Phoenix arena. She really feels a part of that story.”

User avatar
virtual9mm
Posts: 2044
Joined: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:24 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by virtual9mm »

Regarding the Plumdog, he really has no excuse but a lack of mental fortitude. He was considered a solid and up-and-coming starter early last season before he regressed. I thought he was more than competent as a backup center, but that there was a night-and-day falloff in interior defense because Len was so damn good. With Wright, we can keep that high level of interior defense for 40+ minutes a game.

I suspect that Plum will need a change in scenery before he can really blossom...

EDC
Posts: 3242
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:56 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by EDC »

virtual9mm wrote:Regarding the Plumdog, he really has no excuse but a lack of mental fortitude. He was considered a solid and up-and-coming starter early last season before he regressed. I thought he was more than competent as a backup center, but that there was a night-and-day falloff in interior defense because Len was so damn good. With Wright, we can keep that high level of interior defense for 40+ minutes a game.

I suspect that Plum will need a change in scenery before he can really blossom...
The regression has been a pretty big surprise. I thought it might just be a slump but he has just been unable to get out of it. He gets plenty of time to work through it as well. The offensive stuff is understandable as our guards aren't hitting the roll guy on the PnR.

The problem is his defense has looked bad. Seems like he just wants to make a few big blocks and that it will somehow make everything better. Meanwhile he is just giving up layups by not being in position. He is also rotating and jumping for blocks on shots he has no chance of getting leaving his guy to get an easy rebound and put back.

I think you are right about him needing a change of scenery. It just doesn't seem to be clicking for him here anymore.

User avatar
Shabazz
Posts: 7487
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:16 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Shabazz »

Kevin Pelton's trade analysis. He gave the trade a B+, but has similar concerns to me:
Many of Wright's high-percentage shots are set up by rolling to the hoop after setting a screen, and it's interesting to take a look at Phoenix's pick-and-roll performance this season. Roll men are averaging 1.053 points per play, good for sixth in the league according to Synergy Sports (Dallas is second at 1.21 points per play), but such plays account for just 5.1 percent of all Suns plays -- the league's fourth-lowest mark. We'll have to see whether Phoenix's score-first point guards look to lob more often with Wright around.

In particular, Wright seems like a poor fit with backup point guard Isaiah Thomas, who tends to go on dribbling exhibitions after getting a screen rather than immediately finding the roll man.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... oenix-suns

IT's next pass to the roll man will be his first.
Last edited by Shabazz on Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34629
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Superbone »

Shav will be the odd man out.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.

"Be Legendary."

User avatar
Cap
Posts: 8852
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Cap »

Superbone wrote:Shav will be the odd man out.
Assuming we're keeping Plumlee, we really have no place for Randolph at all. Stick him on the reserve list until we can find another team with interest in him, then let him go.

User avatar
Indy
Posts: 19339
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:21 pm
Contact:

Re: Suns Trading for Brandan Wright

Post by Indy »

Shabazz wrote:Kevin Pelton's trade analysis. He gave the trade a B+, but has similar concerns to me:
Many of Wright's high-percentage shots are set up by rolling to the hoop after setting a screen, and it's interesting to take a look at Phoenix's pick-and-roll performance this season. Roll men are averaging 1.053 points per play, good for sixth in the league according to Synergy Sports (Dallas is second at 1.21 points per play), but such plays account for just 5.1 percent of all Suns plays -- the league's fourth-lowest mark. We'll have to see whether Phoenix's score-first point guards look to lob more often with Wright around.

In particular, Wright seems like a poor fit with backup point guard Isaiah Thomas, who tends to go on dribbling exhibitions after getting a screen rather than immediately finding the roll man.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... oenix-suns

IT's next pass to the roll man will be his first.
Yeah, I haven't read the game day thread from last night yet, but man that was really pissing me off. I am an IT supporter in general, but there were way too many one-on-one moves with him yesterday with literally no passes from in-bound to shot.

Post Reply