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O_Gardino wrote:While JJJ and Trae are dropping on people's draft boards, Mikal just keeps getting better.

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O_Gardino wrote:

Cap wrote:Everybody keeps saying Payton needs to cut his hair. Would it be possible to somehow tie it back during games so he doesn't have to cut it?

You would have to ask a physicist. I'm not qualified to predict the behavior of that phenomenon.

virtual9mm wrote:

specialsauce wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

specialsauce wrote:
It’s why I don’t want to resign Payton.

I'm arriving at the conclusion as well. His distributing is nice, and he can stuff the stat sheet, but his lack of 3-point shooting and his inability to defend really makes investing substantial money in him a non-starter for me.

Agreed.

Building a basketball team is rarely around finding 12 perfect players, it is more often about finding pieces that fit together well. And the Suns have multiple holes to fill. Why can't the Suns simply tell Payton that they'll match an RFA contract or offer something along the lines of MLE or a bit higher -- provided that he cut his hair to a reasonable length (which would presumably improve his 3p%)?

Despite his limitations, I'd much rather have Payton at 12 mil than Bledsoe even at the same price. I'm tired of chucker PGs and my first and foremost priority is one that plays pass-first. I'm not sure what pass-first PGs are even available except for Doncic at 1/2.

Wormwood wrote:

virtual9mm wrote:

specialsauce wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

specialsauce wrote:
It’s why I don’t want to resign Payton.

I'm arriving at the conclusion as well. His distributing is nice, and he can stuff the stat sheet, but his lack of 3-point shooting and his inability to defend really makes investing substantial money in him a non-starter for me.

Agreed.

Building a basketball team is rarely around finding 12 perfect players, it is more often about finding pieces that fit together well. And the Suns have multiple holes to fill. Why can't the Suns simply tell Payton that they'll match an RFA contract or offer something along the lines of MLE or a bit higher -- provided that he cut his hair to a reasonable length (which would presumably improve his 3p%)?

Despite his limitations, I'd much rather have Payton at 12 mil than Bledsoe even at the same price. I'm tired of chucker PGs and my first and foremost priority is one that plays pass-first. I'm not sure what pass-first PGs are even available except for Doncic at 1/2.

I could live with Payton at the same price as TJ Warren. That's not bad. Cheaper than Bled and Knight, with superior production to Knight (whom I never expect to see in a Suns uniform again)

Guys who can post triple doubles don't grow on trees. Production wise, he's a starting caliber point guard. What is killing us is:

1. Distribution (Payton addresses this)

3. 3 point shooting. Payton doesn't help, but put him out there with a SF/PF/C that can hit the 3, the offense will be more than fine. (Sadly, Jackson and Warren are terrible 3 point shooters, and Bender acts like someone is holding his mother hostage at an undisclosed location and will kill her if he takes too many shots).

O_Gardino wrote:

Superbone wrote:

virtual9mm wrote:I'd much rather have Payton at 12 mil than Bledsoe even at the same price.

That's a no brainer. The question is if we can get somebody better. I do agree that for Payton to become a better shooter, he's going to have to cut that hair and work on his shot. It needs more arc.

Like you guys said, it's just a mater of finding someone better or getting him on a reasonable enough contract.

Cutting his hair would help in every aspect of the game, because he would be able to SEE.

Wormwood wrote:

virtual9mm wrote:

specialsauce wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

specialsauce wrote:
It’s why I don’t want to resign Payton.

I'm arriving at the conclusion as well. His distributing is nice, and he can stuff the stat sheet, but his lack of 3-point shooting and his inability to defend really makes investing substantial money in him a non-starter for me.

Agreed.

Building a basketball team is rarely around finding 12 perfect players, it is more often about finding pieces that fit together well. And the Suns have multiple holes to fill. Why can't the Suns simply tell Payton that they'll match an RFA contract or offer something along the lines of MLE or a bit higher -- provided that he cut his hair to a reasonable length (which would presumably improve his 3p%)?

Despite his limitations, I'd much rather have Payton at 12 mil than Bledsoe even at the same price. I'm tired of chucker PGs and my first and foremost priority is one that plays pass-first. I'm not sure what pass-first PGs are even available except for Doncic at 1/2.

I could live with Payton at the same price as TJ Warren. That's not bad. Cheaper than Bled and Knight, with superior production to Knight (whom I never expect to see in a Suns uniform again)

Guys who can post triple doubles don't grow on trees. Production wise, he's a starting caliber point guard. What is killing us is:

1. Distribution (Payton addresses this)

3. 3 point shooting. Payton doesn't help, but put him out there with a SF/PF/C that can hit the 3, the offense will be more than fine. (Sadly, Jackson and Warren are terrible 3 point shooters, and Bender acts like someone is holding his mother hostage at an undisclosed location and will kill her if he takes too many shots).

n4th4n wrote:

O_Gardino wrote:While JJJ and Trae are dropping on people's draft boards, Mikal just keeps getting better.

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Bridges is the real deal and his game is perfectly suited for the modern NBA. In theory, we couldn't draft him because we are so loaded on the wings, but I would swap TJ for Bridges in an instant.

https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/970760086435004416

Wormwood wrote: Guys who can post triple doubles don't grow on trees. Production wise, he's a starting caliber point guard. What is killing us is:

Wormwood wrote: Bender acts like someone is holding his mother hostage at an undisclosed location and will kill her if he takes too many shots).

They can’t all be a top 5 or a top 10 player at their position. And without injury, none of these players are particularly likely to overtake Joel Embiid or Anthony Davis (thank god he’s now playing center).

So we have a group of 8-10 players who are being considered near the top of this draft for a deep position (from traditional centers like Embiid, Kristaps, Gobert, Adams, Cousins, Capela, Drummond et al to traditional power forwards like Anthony Davis and Serge Ibaka sometimes manning the position, not to speak of Durant, Lebron, Giannis and the like who all sometimes play there). Does it strike you funny that the upside for all is spoken about as “best player in the league” or “best player at his position”? It does me.

If there are 8-10 players in the draft and one can’t sort through them well enough to figure out who the best one is, the likelihood is that none of them are all that great to begin with. True greatness at the center position is readily apparent in almost every case.

INFORMER wrote:I'm starting to like Aaron Holiday as a point guard target with the Miami pick.

INFORMER wrote:I'm starting to like Aaron Holiday as a point guard target with the Miami pick.

INFORMER wrote:I'm starting to like Aaron Holiday as a point guard target with the Miami pick.

INFORMER wrote:I'm starting to like Aaron Holiday as a point guard target with the Miami pick.

Split T wrote:

INFORMER wrote:I'm starting to like Aaron Holiday as a point guard target with the Miami pick.

That's Jrue's younger brother right? Fits with our team philosophy.

Shabazz wrote:I don't see how Mikal Bridges fails at the next level. He's really good. I'd package the MIA + MIL picks to grab him if we could.