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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

Split T wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'll be surprised if we bring in three rookies without dumping Bender/Chriss and Ulis.

I'd be surprised if all 3 are back. Wouldn't be surprised if 2 are gone. Ulis/Chriss/Bender in likelihood they are gone.

I'd be really shocked if all 3 of those guys are gone. They aren't just going to throw their entire roster in the dumpster, including two top-10 first round picks.

True, I don't think all 3 will be gone. Most likely Bender will be here unless we use him in a trade package. But I think cutting Ulis is a real possibility. Moving Chriss, especially if we land another big, is probably a necessity.

Cap wrote:I kinda wish people would stop mentioning that Bender and Chriss were top-10 picks. That wasn’t a normal draft.

It's still worth mentioning that McD traded up in a shitty draft to take both of them.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:I kinda wish people would stop mentioning that Bender and Chriss were top-10 picks. That wasn’t a normal draft.

It's still worth mentioning that McD traded up in a s*** draft to take both of them.

Why? He didn’t trade much.

Cap wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:I kinda wish people would stop mentioning that Bender and Chriss were top-10 picks. That wasn’t a normal draft.

It's still worth mentioning that McD traded up in a s*** draft to take both of them.

Why? He didn’t trade much.

I'd rather have the picks and Bogdanovic than Chirss. Was it really worth it to move up from 13 to 8 to take Chriss?

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:I kinda wish people would stop mentioning that Bender and Chriss were top-10 picks. That wasn’t a normal draft.

It's still worth mentioning that McD traded up in a s*** draft to take both of them.

Why? He didn’t trade much.

I'd rather have the picks and Bogdanovic than Chirss. Was it really worth it to move up from 13 to 8 to take Chriss?

The “it” in question was the #28 pick in that same crappy draft, a second-rounder, and Bogdan, who had no place here and very limited trade value.

Was it worth trading crap for crap? Meh. It’s not a good trade, but it’s not a bad trade either. It’s an insignificant trade.

In hindsight? Probably not, but it's not like we really missed out either. That draft just sucked. The players Sacramento took are just as bad or worse than Chriss. The only question is if you'd want the right to pay Bogdon.

Cap wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:I kinda wish people would stop mentioning that Bender and Chriss were top-10 picks. That wasn’t a normal draft.

It's still worth mentioning that McD traded up in a s*** draft to take both of them.

Why? He didn’t trade much.

I'd rather have the picks and Bogdanovic than Chirss. Was it really worth it to move up from 13 to 8 to take Chriss?

The “it” in question was the #28 pick in that same crappy draft, a second-rounder, and Bogdan, who had no place here and very limited trade value.

Was it worth trading crap for crap? Meh. It’s not a good trade, but it’s not a bad trade either. It’s an insignificant trade.

It was a low risk high reward trade. It doesn’t look like Chriss is going to be anything special in this league, but I’m not losing sleep over Bogdan Bogdanovic.

specialsauce wrote:

Cap wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

Cap wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:
It's still worth mentioning that McD traded up in a s*** draft to take both of them.

Why? He didn’t trade much.

I'd rather have the picks and Bogdanovic than Chirss. Was it really worth it to move up from 13 to 8 to take Chriss?

The “it” in question was the #28 pick in that same crappy draft, a second-rounder, and Bogdan, who had no place here and very limited trade value.

Was it worth trading crap for crap? Meh. It’s not a good trade, but it’s not a bad trade either. It’s an insignificant trade.

It was a low risk high reward trade. It doesn’t look like Chriss is going to be anything special in this league, but I’m not losing sleep over Bogdan Bogdanovic.

Agreed

Yep, looks like it didn't pan out this time, but I'd do it again.

I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

I’d rather have neither?

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

Agreed.

specialsauce wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

I’d rather have neither?

Skal has shown to be a competent NBA player despite Dave Joerger jerking his minutes around and suffering from a couple of minor injures this year. He's also not a headcase.

This year's Davon Reed? https://www.bulletsforever.com/2018/2/2 ... yri-thomas

Sounds like a Daniels that can actually play defense while also shooting 40% from 3.

Flagrant Fowl wrote:

specialsauce wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

I’d rather have neither?

Skal has shown to be a competent NBA player despite Dave Joerger jerking his minutes around and suffering from a couple of minor injures this year. He's also not a headcase.

I don't think skal has shown much of anything. He's been back and forth in the g league still. His numbers look better than Chriss this year but by no means is he a good NBA rotation player yet. But I won't argue with wanting him more than Chriss. I agree with sauce though, I'll pass on both.

INFORMER wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

Agreed.

Only because his contract is smaller. If you are going to take a risk on an athletic big guy who doesn't seem to have much bball IQ, take that risk later in the draft.

carey wrote:This year's Davon Reed? https://www.bulletsforever.com/2018/2/2 ... yri-thomas

Sounds like a Daniels that can actually play defense while also shooting 40% from 3.

I don't get the Reed reference. Thomas could go in the late lottery; Reed was a mid-to-late 2nd rounder that the Suns overdrafted.

I wouldn't compare him to Daniels either. Thomas is a better penetrator (straight-line drives) and far superior athleticall.

INFORMER wrote:

carey wrote:This year's Davon Reed? https://www.bulletsforever.com/2018/2/2 ... yri-thomas

Sounds like a Daniels that can actually play defense while also shooting 40% from 3.

I don't get the Reed reference. Thomas could go in the late lottery; Reed was a mid-to-late 2nd rounder that the Suns overdrafted.

I wouldn't compare him to Daniels either. Thomas is a better penetrator (straight-line drives) and far superior athleticall.

Agreed

O_Gardino wrote:

INFORMER wrote:

Flagrant Fowl wrote:I'd rather have Skal Labissiere than Chriss.

Agreed.

Only because his contract is smaller. If you are going to take a risk on an athletic big guy who doesn't seem to have much bball IQ, take that risk later in the draft.

Not just that. I trusted Skal's rim protection and shooting form more than anything I had seen from Chriss.

INFORMER wrote:

I don't get the Reed reference. Thomas could go in the late lottery; Reed was a mid-to-late 2nd rounder that the Suns overdrafted.

I wouldn't compare him to Daniels either. Thomas is a better penetrator (straight-line drives) and far superior athleticall.

Interesting. I've been reading he was mocked in the 25 to 35 range. Also he's 22 and is supposed to be a 3 & D guy which is what Reed is.