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Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:16 am
by Ring_Wanted
Yo, what if LeBron comes to play with Booker? Ha!

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:56 am
by Wormwood
The Bobster wrote:
Shabazz wrote:He's better than you guys are giving him credit for. And we have leverage over the Lakers to get another asset too.
He's getting paid $26 million over the next two years and he's not a starter-quality point guard.

And what are the Lakers going to throw in? Randle?
And we're paying 15m per year for three more years to a PG who could safely be replaced with a corpse. Point?

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:55 am
by Split T
So because we're wasting money on Knight it's ok to waste money on Clarkson? That logic doesn't make sense

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:18 am
by Wormwood
Split T wrote:So because we're wasting money on Knight it's ok to waste money on Clarkson? That logic doesn't make sense
Point being that in the grand scheme of things, Clarkson's contract isn't actually that terrible. He certainly produces more than Chandler, Knight, or Dudley. I'd swap any of those three for Clarkson.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:36 am
by Split T
That's fair. I'm not opposed to Clarkson. I'd definitely rather have him than Knight. I wouldn't be too excited about adding his contract though without moving a similar one

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:55 pm
by Shabazz
29 points (on 19 shots), 10 assists, 6 rebounds and 2 steals for SpecialSauce's guy Clarkson today.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:08 pm
by In2ition
Shabazz wrote:29 points (on 19 shots), 10 assists, 6 rebounds and 2 steals for SpecialSauce's guy Clarkson today.
"But he's a sg, not good enough to be a starting pg in this league." - heard parroted throughput the land.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:10 pm
by Shabazz
Our SG initiates (and should) the majority of our offense. We don't need a traditional PG to play alongside him.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:52 pm
by O_Gardino
I'm not opposed to Kemba, but don't want to give up a lot for him, including flexibility this off-season. If it's Monroe for Kemba straight up, of course I would take it. If it's Monroe + a protected pick, then OK. But I'm not taking on Kemba, a bad contract, and giving up a prospect and a pick. I want to see what's available this summer.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:11 pm
by Split T
Shabazz wrote:Our SG initiates (and should) the majority of our offense. We don't need a traditional PG to play alongside him.
That's true, but Clarkson still isn't the guy you want next to Booker. Clarkson is a 1st guard off the bench guy.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:11 pm
by O_Gardino
Clarkson feels to me like another Knight or Bledsoe move. He puts up numbers, but he's not that good. No thanks.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:59 pm
by Mori Chu
Ideally our next PG would be above league-starting-PG-average at two of the following three skills:

- passing
- shooting
- defense

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:07 am
by Wormwood
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Ideally our next PG would be above league-starting-PG-average at two of the following three skills:

- passing
- shooting
- defense
Choose passing and shooting. There's plenty of quantitative evidence that PGs have a limited effect on team defense compared with your front court positions.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:08 am
by In2ition
Wormwood wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Ideally our next PG would be above league-starting-PG-average at two of the following three skills:

- passing
- shooting
- defense
Choose passing and shooting. There's plenty of quantitative evidence that PGs have a limited effect on team defense compared with your front court positions.
Wow, I agree with Worm on this one. I really doubt that you are going to find all three traits in the next pg.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:40 am
by Split T
There's a few guys in this draft that project to possibly be those types of PG. Shai Alexander, Nickiel Alexander-Walker, Landry shamet, Bruce Brown, deanthony melton

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:12 am
by Shabazz
Shooting and Defense next to Booker, I’d I had to choose 2.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:22 am
by ShelC
Shooting should be a priority this offseason. Up and down the roster. No excuses.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:11 pm
by JCSunsfan
Split T wrote:There's a few guys in this draft that project to possibly be those types of PG. Shai Alexander, Nickiel Alexander-Walker, Landry shamet, Bruce Brown, deanthony melton
Shamet is a nice looking pg. Excellent shooting, good distributor, not a bad defender. He is not a #1 option type. He is sort of a Brogdon type of pg.

Comparison of pg's in this draft not named Trae Young.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compar ... dry-shamet


I am still really intrigued with Bamba. His absolute floor is a more mobile Rudy Gobert. I don't think you can miss picking him with that length.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:25 pm
by n4th4n
JCSunsfan wrote:
Split T wrote:There's a few guys in this draft that project to possibly be those types of PG. Shai Alexander, Nickiel Alexander-Walker, Landry shamet, Bruce Brown, deanthony melton
Shamet is a nice looking pg. Excellent shooting, good distributor, not a bad defender. He is not a #1 option type. He is sort of a Brogdon type of pg.

Comparison of pg's in this draft not named Trae Young.

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compar ... dry-shamet


I am still really intrigued with Bamba. His absolute floor is a more mobile Rudy Gobert. I don't think you can miss picking him with that length.
Everything points towards him be a really good kid too. He certainly has the potential to transform an NBA defense. I also think he has the highest potential to flop in the NBA. I currently have him ranked 5th and I would be delighted if we could add him.

Re: 2018 Trade Deadline

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:12 am
by Mori Chu
ShelC wrote:Shooting should be a priority this offseason. Up and down the roster. No excuses.
I agree. I really think we should literally sign zero players who are not good shooters. It's a glaring weakness on our roster. If we had 1-2 more good shooters in the rotation, we could actually win a few games.