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JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:57 pm

We have three starter level guys who could probably play three different positions for long stretches during any given game. This is a good problem to have, if anyone considers it a problem at all. Also, we're in the era of position-less basketball. It doesn't matter who is in which role if they play well together and win games.

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:10 pm

You can call it whatever you want, but a 6’6 player will almost certainly always be unable to defend a 7’2 player, and the same is true the other way around.

Indy wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:42 pm

Cap wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:39 pm

jonh wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:16 am

Cap wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:06 am

Indy wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:57 am

Or because he knows if he doesn't win now, he won't have a job to use that 2021 pick. Desperation might have won out over talent evaluation and what 2021 may bring.

He went for a rookie whose position is not a particular need. If it were the kind of desperation you describe, wouldn’t he have used the assets for a vet?

I dont think so, because McD's pitch is about potential, not current performance. If the pieces suck this year, thats because they are so young that they are supposed to--think about what they could BE (in a couple of years). That one idea has allowed him to keep his job while creating the league's worst team for the past 3 years. Going with a veteran undermines the whole argument, because not only does the team suck, but the player is not likely to get better.

Doesn’t knowingly creating a logjam suggest there’s more to it than that? His pitch isn’t going to be helped by trading two picks for a guy who ends up stuck on the bench behind JJ and Warren. He’s got to be counting on Bridges to be a real contributor.

And I hope he has a good plan to relieve the logjam.

it worked well at PG a couple years ago...

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

That's not good. And the picks don't cancel each other out. I'm sorry, but that reasoning just doesn't work.

Ryan made a great trade when he dealt Dragic. But the gain of that trade is marginalized because he had to use those two picks to get back one pick that he never should have dealt in the first place. That's not good general managing, and it is sad that so many accept it.

UglyTruth wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:18 pm

The only other times that Ryan McDonough has traded up for players have been for Archie Goodwin and Marquese Chriss so if history is any indication, Bridges should work out well.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

That's not good. And the picks don't cancel each other out. I'm sorry, but that reasoning just doesn't work.

Ryan made a great trade when he dealt Dragic. But the gain of that trade is marginalized because he had to use those two picks to get back one pick that he never should have dealt in the first place. That's not good general managing, and it is sad that so many accept it.

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:15 am

Welcome to the board, JeremyG. I see you've already met the grumps of the hour.

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:15 am

Welcome to the board, JeremyG. I see you've already met the grumps of the hour.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:49 pm

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:15 am

Welcome to the board, JeremyG. I see you've already met the grumps of the hour.

Thanks. And I can see the other way of looking at it. But I like to keep things positive until proven otherwise.

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

That's not good. And the picks don't cancel each other out. I'm sorry, but that reasoning just doesn't work.

Ryan made a great trade when he dealt Dragic. But the gain of that trade is marginalized because he had to use those two picks to get back one pick that he never should have dealt in the first place. That's not good general managing, and it is sad that so many accept it.

UglyTruth wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:37 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

That's not good. And the picks don't cancel each other out. I'm sorry, but that reasoning just doesn't work.

Ryan made a great trade when he dealt Dragic. But the gain of that trade is marginalized because he had to use those two picks to get back one pick that he never should have dealt in the first place. That's not good general managing, and it is sad that so many accept it.

The worst part is that pick wasn't even something he worked for to get. Lance Blanks worked hard to get that LAL unprotected 1st and it's one of the very few good things that Blanks ever did.

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:33 am

UglyTruth wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:37 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

That's not good. And the picks don't cancel each other out. I'm sorry, but that reasoning just doesn't work.

Ryan made a great trade when he dealt Dragic. But the gain of that trade is marginalized because he had to use those two picks to get back one pick that he never should have dealt in the first place. That's not good general managing, and it is sad that so many accept it.

The worst part is that pick wasn't even something he worked for to get. L___e B____s worked hard to get that LAL unprotected 1st and it's one of the very few good things that B____s ever did.

Everything I heard said it was actually Babby and Sarver directly negotiating it, not B____s.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:09 pm

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:58 pm

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:03 pm

My point was that as it turned out the picks canceled each other out. It's as if we never got the Miami picks and never traded the Lakers pick. Thus, it was Dragic for Knight.

That's not good. And the picks don't cancel each other out. I'm sorry, but that reasoning just doesn't work.

Ryan made a great trade when he dealt Dragic. But the gain of that trade is marginalized because he had to use those two picks to get back one pick that he never should have dealt in the first place. That's not good general managing, and it is sad that so many accept it.

Accept it as opposed to what exactly?

UglyTruth wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:54 pm

Pretty interesting how there's threads specifically for Bridges and even Doncic on this board but nothing for Ayton lol.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:58 pm

UglyTruth wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:54 pm

Pretty interesting how there's threads specifically for Bridges and even Doncic on this board but nothing for Ayton lol.

The number one draft pick thread is the Ayton thread. We didn't know we were getting Bridges. Don't read too much into it.