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specialsauce wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:07 am

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:05 am

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:05 pm

Is Markkanen any different from Saric? Asking legitimately.

The pandemic has softened you up as you didn’t jump on the opportunity to jettison Oubre.

Lol. My mistake. My emotions are elsewhere right now.

I’d trade him for cash considerations to Chicago!

More than understandable. There ya go. That’s more like it!

wpmiller42 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:11 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:48 am

Aaron Gordon had an awful start to the season, but he was playing really well before the Coronavirus hit. He was dropping triple doubles and looking draymond esque at times.

Lauri was not good this year, but he’s in a bad situation. He was 19/9 the year before and shot 43/36/87 at 21 years old. No he’s not Dirk, but a lot of talent there.

Still, I don’t think I want to move Oubre for either of them. I understand why on paper, as both are more suited to the 4 and provide similar value and youth, but it feels very much like a lateral move. I think Oubre is a valuable chemistry and culture piece...I would only move him in a clear step forward.

Both had subpar season, it’s possible they could be acquired on the cheap. I’d offer up our 1st(probably 10th) and whoever else they want not named Booker, Bridges, Ayton, or Oubre.

I think this is where I'm at too. I might also include Cam Johnson in that list you had at the end. Great shooter, better than average defender, who I think can still get a little better.

If we could get either for cheap, I would do that for sure. But my definition of cheap and theirs might be $10-15 million apart.

How is either any less of an injury risk than TJ was? And TJ is the better all around player. I'd have to get him on a very reasonable deal, and Chicago/Orlando has to throw in a pick.

I think Lauri and AG both provide much better fits than TJ...And even not accounting for fit, I think AG and Lauri are both better players than TJ. They had down years this year, but I’d bet on them being better.

Throw in Isaac or White and we can talk.

I mean I’d gladly give up Oubre for Isaac. Orlando isn’t trading him though.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:42 am

I mean I’d gladly give up Oubre for Isaac. Orlando isn’t trading him though.

right. I was really on the isaac train and was really pissed when we took josh jackson over him.

Seeing that the Suns didn't trade Oubre at the trade deadline for AG, when Orlando asked for him in a trade, doesn't make me think they will do that this summer. I get that Gambo has some contacts around the league and maybe even in the Suns front office(although he was really late on stuff lately), I just think it would be incredibly bad to give up a 1st and Oubre for Laurie or AG. They can still get better this summer without giving up assets and overpaying for something like that. I would argue that they would be better off with cap space for FA + 1st round pick + Oubre this summer. If the Suns were to get Haliburton in the draft as a good backup pg, and then sign a guy like Bertans along with say Boucher as a backup PFs, while keeping or upgrading Baynes position without giving up Oubre, I think the team really improved themselves this summer. And I think it's a better team than one without a backup pg, and Oubre.

Indy wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:49 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:42 am

I mean I’d gladly give up Oubre for Isaac. Orlando isn’t trading him though.

right. I was really on the isaac train and was really pissed when we took josh jackson over him.

I was really high on him too. I had him as my 2a to Josh Jackson’s 2b on my board(Fultz was 1) so I wasn’t pissed when we passed on him though.

Deciding not to trade Oubre midseason won't mean much in the offseason IMO. Jones may not have wanted to disrupt the team and chemistry in Monty's first year, especially without seeing the team at full strength. Could be a different case this offseason with Oubre a FA after next season. And while Gordon's contract runs a year longer, it actually declines from 18.1 next season to 16.4 the next. Could've been one those "let's revisit this in July" kinda convo.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:12 pm

Deciding not to trade Oubre midseason won't mean much in the offseason IMO. Jones may not have wanted to disrupt the team and chemistry in Monty's first year, especially without seeing the team at full strength. Could be a different case this offseason with Oubre a FA after next season. And while Gordon's contract runs a year longer, it actually declines from 18.1 next season to 16.4 the next. Could've been one those "let's revisit this in July" kinda convo.

That's certainly possible. When the Suns look like they've found a pretty decent starting lineup (Rubio, Booker, Bridges, Oubre, Ayton), but there are huge holes in the bench, why would you eliminate the chance to fix the bench first? If it was only Oubre for AG, I would definitely think about that and still have a chance to add a player in the draft and free agency.

Booker and Ayton both represented well in the NBA2K players’ tournament quarterfinals.

I’m watching game 4 of the 93 finals...I was too young to have many strong memories of that time, but wow..if Richard Dumas could have avoided his off court problems, he was going to be special.

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:27 am

I’m watching game 4 of the 93 finals...I was too young to have many strong memories of that time, but wow..if Richard Dumas could have avoided his off court problems, he was going to be special.

Yes he was. Just couldn’t stay off the coke.

Quite the workout.

SunsRIt wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:38 pm

Quite the workout.

Looks to me like he’s ready to play again.

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:27 am

I’m watching game 4 of the 93 finals...I was too young to have many strong memories of that time, but wow..if Richard Dumas could have avoided his off court problems, he was going to be special.

And we never would have been in a position to draft him.

Book just swept Trez in the semi’s. If Ayton can beat Beverley, we’ll get an all suns finals