Phx-Suns.Net

pickle wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:31 pm

I honestly can’t believe we are seriously discussing Ayton vs. Sabonis to the tune of nearly 20 posts.

I assumed (apparently rightly so) that the racist comment was a joke so I won’t get into that.

On the merits of these two players, maybe we need to look at the greater context. What is our goal in this discussion? Are we trying to be academic or are we actually talking about the context of the 2021-22 Phoenix Suns who are sitting at 45-10 on the season with a number of spectacular statistics that I won’t recite one by one? One of our very best attributes is chemistry and why are we ok with such a massive disruption when we are clearly right on the cusp?

Looking past the chemistry issues, we finally have a strong defensive team in the 32 years I’ve watched this team, and we all know the cliche that defense wins championships, and why would we ever move our paint anchor for someone that has slow foot speed and can’t jump? I mean we beat the Clippers last year in a game where both teams barely put up 90 points. I don’t see Sabonis helping the team there. And don’t say McGee and Bizzy.

Ayton is not the offensive hub that Sabonis is, but he’s not a Capela or Mitchell Robinson on offense. When he’s healthy he is our third point of attack where his getting 3 feet into the lane creates not only offensive gravity but that turn around right hook is one of our top offensive options — 4 point play went into this and that and CP3’s middy and Booker’s 3 point pull up (at least early season) each generates about 120 pts per 100 possessions IIRC.

Sabonis is not a particularly useful player without the ball in his hands as he’s not a shooter. CP3 is also not best utilized spotting up and attacking close outs at this point in his career, particularly with Sabonis parked in or near the lane. If this were NBA2K I’d probably make such a change. In real life, particularly this season, I wouldn’t go anywhere near that trade. I don’t care how much it’ll take to extend Ayton. He’s worth it to this team.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:41 am

Remember when they won 18 in a row and the general feeling was like, "This is great, but let's be careful of getting worked up over wins in December."? Nearly three months later and I can't help but feel the same way except I've run out of places to pinch myself.

I'm blaming Robert Sarver if the Suns don't win it all this year because only his bad karma from being an asshole could derail the momentum this team has going right now.

pickle wrote:I honestly can’t believe we are seriously discussing Ayton vs. Sabonis to the tune of nearly 20 posts.

I assumed (apparently rightly so) that the racist comment was a joke so I won’t get into that.

On the merits of these two players, maybe we need to look at the greater context. What is our goal in this discussion? Are we trying to be academic or are we actually talking about the context of the 2021-22 Phoenix Suns who are sitting at 45-10 on the season with a number of spectacular statistics that I won’t recite one by one? One of our very best attributes is chemistry and why are we ok with such a massive disruption when we are clearly right on the cusp?

Looking past the chemistry issues, we finally have a strong defensive team in the 32 years I’ve watched this team, and we all know the cliche that defense wins championships, and why would we ever move our paint anchor for someone that has slow foot speed and can’t jump? I mean we beat the Clippers last year in a game where both teams barely put up 90 points. I don’t see Sabonis helping the team there. And don’t say McGee and Bizzy.

Ayton is not the offensive hub that Sabonis is, but he’s not a Capela or Mitchell Robinson on offense. When he’s healthy he is our third point of attack where his getting 3 feet into the lane creates not only offensive gravity but that turn around right hook is one of our top offensive options — 4 point play went into this and that and CP3’s middy and Booker’s 3 point pull up (at least early season) each generates about 120 pts per 100 possessions IIRC.

Sabonis is not a particularly useful player without the ball in his hands as he’s not a shooter. CP3 is also not best utilized spotting up and attacking close outs at this point in his career, particularly with Sabonis parked in or near the lane. If this were NBA2K I’d probably make such a change. In real life, particularly this season, I wouldn’t go anywhere near that trade. I don’t care how much it’ll take to extend Ayton. He’s worth it to this team.

Split T wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:26 pm

They’ve also only been in LA for a short time…he became a fan when they were in St. Louis. It’s simply that they were the fun, exciting team with Warner, Faulk, Holt, and Bruce when he started watching football. Got a buddy who was a fan for the same reason, though he switched as he got older to the Cards

Split T wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:15 am

His math isn’t right though. Warriors have 25 games left, so let’s say they go 19-6, that puts them at 61-21. We’d need to get to 62-20 to avoid a tie, so we’d only need to go 16-10 as we are 46-10 currently. If we go 20-6 like he says, we’ll finish at 66-16 and GS would need to go 24-1 to tie us.