Re: Suns News: 2019 Off-Season
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:26 pm
We don't need another marginal PG eating up our cap space. We have too many mediocre or bad players as it is.
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no wait, that was last year’s main idea.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:26 pmWe don't need another marginal PG eating up our cap space. We have too many mediocre or bad players as it is.
I'm not advocating PHX to go for him at MLE money. Just stating that I think MLE is not excessive for Joseph. For instance, if I were a team over the cap in need of a backup PG, I would be ok offering him such deal, although I'd probably look at others first.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:15 amIt’s a waste of resources. You have limited money, why take up 10 million that could be used to nab a mich higher impact player when he only provides marginal improvement over what we currently have or any other PG we could sign on the minimumRing_Wanted wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:39 amMLE for him would not be bad depending on your context. The upside is limited but so is the financial commitment of a MLE contract. It just sound heavy nowadays because MLE starts at almost $10M.
$10M for a backup point guard that is talented is not bad. Corey Joseph is not that. He’s a dime a dozen.Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:37 amI'm not advocating PHX to go for him at MLE money. Just stating that I think MLE is not excessive for Joseph. For instance, if I were a team over the cap in need of a backup PG, I would be ok offering him such deal, although I'd probably look at others first.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:15 amIt’s a waste of resources. You have limited money, why take up 10 million that could be used to nab a mich higher impact player when he only provides marginal improvement over what we currently have or any other PG we could sign on the minimumRing_Wanted wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:39 amMLE for him would not be bad depending on your context. The upside is limited but so is the financial commitment of a MLE contract. It just sound heavy nowadays because MLE starts at almost $10M.
Why??? Tyler Johnson is better than Joseph at just about everything. Whoever we sign legitimately needs to be better than he is. Of the guards being discussed lately it's basically just Brogdon and Russel. Those are the only guys I'm tying up my cap space for.Split T wrote:If we sign Joseph to a 2 year 15 million dollar deal, I’ll be underwhelmed, but that would be a fine contract. Just don’t sign any of these mediocre options to deals longer than 2 years.
I’m not advocating for it, but I’m not sure you’re right about Tyler. Joseph is a better defender and takes better care of the ball. Tyler has a nice 12 game stretch for us where his A/TO ratio was very good, but that isn’t backed up historically.carey wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:20 amWhy??? Tyler Johnson is better than Joseph at just about everything. Whoever we sign legitimately needs to be better than he is. Of the guards being discussed lately it's basically just Brogdon and Russel. Those are the only guys I'm tying up my cap space for.Split T wrote:If we sign Joseph to a 2 year 15 million dollar deal, I’ll be underwhelmed, but that would be a fine contract. Just don’t sign any of these mediocre options to deals longer than 2 years.
Why even think about it until he’s got a season with us under his belt?Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:59 pmWhat are everyone’s thoughts on Saric? Is he a long term guy? How much would he cost in restricted free agency next year? Should we consider offering him an extension this summer? At what number would you be comfortable?
I honestly don’t have a good read on his value. I heard talk of 15 million a year, but that seems crazy to me. He feels more like a 10 mil a year guy to me, but who knows. How he plays this year will be key.
His cap hold is 10 million next year. I wouldn’t sign him to an extension unless the first year salary is below that number.
It's nice to have an NBA player at PF.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:59 pmWhat are everyone’s thoughts on Saric? Is he a long term guy? How much would he cost in restricted free agency next year? Should we consider offering him an extension this summer? At what number would you be comfortable?
I honestly don’t have a good read on his value. I heard talk of 15 million a year, but that seems crazy to me. He feels more like a 10 mil a year guy to me, but who knows. How he plays this year will be key.
His cap hold is 10 million next year. I wouldn’t sign him to an extension unless the first year salary is below that number.
I’m stoked. He creates his own shot, finds cutters, hustles, and has deep range. Minny just sucked. I think Monty will know what to do with him. I think people are over reacting to the trade.Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:59 pmWhat are everyone’s thoughts on Saric? Is he a long term guy? How much would he cost in restricted free agency next year? Should we consider offering him an extension this summer? At what number would you be comfortable?
I honestly don’t have a good read on his value. I heard talk of 15 million a year, but that seems crazy to me. He feels more like a 10 mil a year guy to me, but who knows. How he plays this year will be key.
His cap hold is 10 million next year. I wouldn’t sign him to an extension unless the first year salary is below that number.
Because he might value longevity/security right now, and we might get a better deal.Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 4:44 pmWhy even think about it until he’s got a season with us under his belt?Split T wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:59 pmWhat are everyone’s thoughts on Saric? Is he a long term guy? How much would he cost in restricted free agency next year? Should we consider offering him an extension this summer? At what number would you be comfortable?
I honestly don’t have a good read on his value. I heard talk of 15 million a year, but that seems crazy to me. He feels more like a 10 mil a year guy to me, but who knows. How he plays this year will be key.
His cap hold is 10 million next year. I wouldn’t sign him to an extension unless the first year salary is below that number.
Guess we'll see. It would suck if we don't sign Russell and Book turns sour on the franchise. Then again, it would suck to sign Russell to a max deal just because Booker wants him and not have him be worth it or be a bad fit.The Suns will sign a veteran point guard, and Devin Booker has campaigned for Russell -- a close friend. But other voices within the Suns may not share Booker's unabashed enthusiasm, sources say. They have only about $14 million or so in cap space as of now. We'll see how Phoenix approaches the point guard market.
We are f*cked both way. Good times indeed.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:16 amFrom Lowe's article:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/270 ... t-decision
Guess we'll see. It would suck if we don't sign Russell and Book turns sour on the franchise. Then again, it would suck to sign Russell to a max deal just because Booker wants him and not have him be worth it or be a bad fit.The Suns will sign a veteran point guard, and Devin Booker has campaigned for Russell -- a close friend. But other voices within the Suns may not share Booker's unabashed enthusiasm, sources say. They have only about $14 million or so in cap space as of now. We'll see how Phoenix approaches the point guard market.