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Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:49 pm
by UglyTruth
specialsauce wrote:Then please PLEASE trade him
That’s not McDonough’s style. He waits till a player creates a mess, publicly leaks out that he wants out of Phoenix, bashes the organization and THEN McDonough will trade him.
It’s what happened with Dragic, Markief, Bledsoe and will happen again with Warren imo.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:27 pm
by Split T
I think that's up to the coaching staff to figure out. I'm not gonna make assumptions based on media quotes. If the coaching staff decides they want him off the bench and he's not ok with it and going to cause problems, then by all means trade him. I just don't think his answer here necessarily indicates he'll cause problems. Although I'm fine moving him whether he's ok coming off the bench or not.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:53 pm
by Split T
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 2:55 pm
by Split T
“We’re going to raise our standards. We won’t be as young. We won’t have nearly as many young players as we did this year. We’ll have more experience, we’ll have more veterans,” McDonough said.
“I think we have the ability to do all that. Now what we’ll be able to do, that will be dictated over the next three or four months as we go through the draft and free agency. But we’ll add at least one more elite young player to Devin Booker, Josh Jackson, T.J. Warren and the rest of our guys and then we’ll try to accelerate the rest of it.”
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:11 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote:“We’re going to raise our standards. We won’t be as young. We won’t have nearly as many young players as we did this year. We’ll have more experience, we’ll have more veterans,” McDonough said.
“I think we have the ability to do all that. Now what we’ll be able to do, that will be dictated over the next three or four months as we go through the draft and free agency. But we’ll add at least one more elite young player to Devin Booker, Josh Jackson, T.J. Warren and the rest of our guys and then we’ll try to accelerate the rest of it.”
Should be a fun off-season if nothing else.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:20 pm
by specialsauce
He's really raising expectations. What a moron. He is really backing himself into a corner and setting himself up to get killed by the fans.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:37 pm
by Split T
I think he was already in that corner. At least he knows it. He's not gonna go down looking, he's gonna take his swing this off-season.
I think we'll see a drastically different team next year. McD mentioned the guys that will be back in Booker, Jackson, and Warren. Nobody else is safe.
Here's my best guess:
Locks to be back:
Booker
Jackson - only way I see him gone is for Kawhi
Most likely back:
Chandler, Dudley, Knight - I just don't see them as movable. Could use stretch provision on one of we're desperate for cap space.
Warren - McD consistently mentions him as part of core
50-50 guys:
Bender, Chriss - I think we choose 1 between these two.
Harrison, Ulis - Wouldn't mind them back as 3rd PG, not sure there is room for both
House, Daniels - Same as above, but at sg
Williams - Could be a cap casualty to free up space, maybe back at minimum deal?
Probably gone:
Payton - Not impressed with his stint, be a big mistake if we brought him back.
Peters, Reed - Just didn't show enough, could come back on 2-way deals
Gone for sure:
Len
I'll say Booker, Jackson, Warren, Chandler, Dudley, Knight, Bender, House, Harrison return. Our top pick makes 10, plus probably 1 more rookie. That's 11, so we have 4 more spots, plus 2 2-way deals.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 3:41 pm
by TOO
specialsauce wrote:He's really raising expectations. What a moron. He is really backing himself into a corner and setting himself up to get killed by the fans.
So more of the same then?
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:50 pm
by carey
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:25 am
by ShelC
Shouldn't the standards be pretty high to begin with? And weren't we already adding veterans like Tyson and Dudley?
I don't care if guys are young/rooks so long as they can play. Are the sixers too young with Saric, Simmons and Embiid? Bender and Chriss not showing much of anything is what's hurting us, considering they were both top 10 picks in their draft class and we traded for one of them. But who else is young? Jackson and Booker? He screwed up the PG, PF and C spots.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:06 am
by Indy
UglyTruth wrote:Split T wrote:I'm ok with his answer. He obviously doesn't want to come off the bench but not many 20 ppg scorers would. Its going to happen eventually though, so he'll have to adjust, if we don't trade him first.
I don’t want the Suns to have to deal with another disgruntled player again.
But we have so much experience at it!
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:10 am
by Cap
I really don’t like all this talk of “accelerating.” I’m expecting some dumb moves. Please don’t trade mid-first round picks in this draft for mediocre veterans.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:37 am
by Mori Chu
I know a lot of folks here dislike McDo. But what I'm most afraid of is a GM who fears for his job security. I don't want us to make panic moves to try to save anybody's job.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:53 am
by O_Gardino
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I know a lot of folks here dislike McDo. But what I'm most afraid of is a GM who fears for his job security. I don't want us to make panic moves to try to save anybody's job.
Yep. McDo might make bad moves to save his job, then get fired and the new guy makes bad moves to show he has a different plan.
An interesting case is Philly, where Hinkie built the roster through the draft and tanking, lost his job, and Colangelo has basically kept Hinkie's guys and added Reddick. You could say Hinkie was terrible for drafting Noel and Okafor, but this 52 win team is almost entirely his.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:09 am
by TOO
O_Gardino wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I know a lot of folks here dislike McDo. But what I'm most afraid of is a GM who fears for his job security. I don't want us to make panic moves to try to save anybody's job.
Yep. McDo might make bad moves to save his job, then get fired and the new guy makes bad moves to show he has a different plan.
An interesting case is Philly, where Hinkie built the roster through the draft and tanking, lost his job, and Colangelo has basically kept Hinkie's guys and added Reddick. You could say Hinkie was terrible for drafting Noel and Okafor, but this 52 win team is almost entirely his.
I'm sure we'd have been better off living the top 3 of the draft for the last 5 or 6 years. Hinkie gets too much credit for solid lottery luck.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:07 pm
by Split T
Cap wrote:I really don’t like all this talk of “accelerating.” I’m expecting some dumb moves. Please don’t trade mid-first round picks in this draft for mediocre veterans.
Who would you consider a mediocre vet?
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:16 pm
by bajanguy008
For those who been wondering about Gordon n saying he would be decent once we don't overpay
Well his desire seems clear
https://twitter.com/JoshuaBRobbins/status/984465753771577345
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:31 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:Cap wrote:I really don’t like all this talk of “accelerating.” I’m expecting some dumb moves. Please don’t trade mid-first round picks in this draft for mediocre veterans.
Who would you consider a mediocre vet?
Carmelo. Avery Bradley. Thad Young. KCP. Monroe. Wes Matthews. Ilyasova. Wilson Chandler. All free agents this summer.
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:45 pm
by sunset rubdown
What about Derrick Favors?
Re: Suns News: Week 25 4/2-4/10
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:04 pm
by O_Gardino
Exit interviews:
http://www.nba.com/suns/video
(Did Carey already post this?)
These are all paraphrases.
Triano: 5 guys had career years, not counting Jackson or Chriss
Triano (when asked about coaching next season): Today should be about the players. He is who he is, and we've already seen what kind of work he is going to do. He will keep investing in young guys.
McD: When they decided to start rebuilding the "right" way, they targeted a 3 year window. Longer than that, and losing sets in.
McD: We have the ability to create a lot of cap space easily if needed for one, or more likely multiple players. Will see who is available.
McD: Going forward, players will be evaluated more on merit than they have been.
McD: Has a target list of coaches, but has not started coaching interviews yet.
Bender is a bit homesick for Croatia after 7 months away.
Bender (asked who he wants to beat in a 3pt shooting contest, like the ones they have after practice): Obviously, he can't match the shooters on the team, but he likes to challenge Tyson.
Chriss: I like playing with Bender. I get to be around the ball and get rebounds, he gets his 3pt shots. We work well together.
Booker: The league has been beating him up since he got here, and he feels the pain of losing just like the fans.
Booker: Area of improvement over the summer - His body. He wants to be healthy to not miss any more games.
(Apparently Chandler is good in the team 3pt contests, because Booker likes to challenge him, too.)
Jackson: Wants to get stronger and work on his handles
Jackson can't sleep on the plane because he's afraid of heights