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Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:52 am
by Flagrant Fowl
John Wall is a nightmare. A very good player, sure. But his contract is insane and he's had procedures on both knees. It won't be long before he'll need to play without depending on elite athleticism, and I'm not sure he'll make that transition well.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:42 am
by Split T
Ya, I have no interest in Wall.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:44 am
by O_Gardino
If only we could combine John Wall's contract, health, and leadership with Trae Young's shot selection and defense.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:05 am
by In2ition
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:44 am
If only we could combine John Wall's contract, health, and leadership with Trae Young's shot selection and defense.
If we could only combine the skills and athleticism of Ayton and Doncic, we would have an much larger and bigger LeBron.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:30 pm
by Mori Chu
It's too bad that Wall has such a stupid contract. I like him a lot as a player and think he's a bit underrated or forgotten in many NBA top-N PGs discussions. I agree that the contract plus the knee injury history makes him a stay-away as a trade target.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:49 pm
by DrSublime
Other: Luka Doncic
hey let me dream!
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:21 pm
by Wally_West
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:24 pm
by TOO
That is too high for Brunson, don't think Smith or Walker will be there, no interested in Brown. Hope we move up.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:26 pm
by Split T
Please don't take Brunson at 16... I'd be fine with Holiday or Brown, although only if Brown has shown an improving jump shot. Don't think Zhaire lasts to 16, Walker might, but I'm not that excited about him...I like Divencenzo, but was hoping he'd be a candidate at 31
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:49 pm
by Shabazz
What do you guys think of Jerome Robinson? I really like his stroke.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:43 pm
by Split T
Shabazz wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:49 pm
What do you guys think of Jerome Robinson? I really like his stroke.
Haven't spent much time on him so I can't say much... I recall some draft guy calling him a terrible defender, but that's all I remember.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:45 pm
by INFORMER
Shabazz wrote: ↑Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:49 pm
What do you guys think of Jerome Robinson? I really like his stroke.
I think he's very mediocre. Decent handles and shot, could score well at the college level. I think he is a low-level role player in the NBA.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:41 pm
by JCSunsfan
There is no point in adding more players unless we are confident they can displace, be better than present players. But there is one exception. If we think we can effectively use the G-League as a farm system, then OK. But it really hasn't worked that way yet.
Combine to move up.
Trade for a quality vet.
Draft and stash.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:45 pm
by O_Gardino
JCSunsfan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:41 pm
There is no point in adding more players unless we are confident they can displace, be better than present players. But there is one exception. If we think we can effectively use the G-League as a farm system, then OK. But it really hasn't worked that way yet.
Combine to move up.
Trade for a quality vet.
Draft and stash.
It's not hard to be better than our present players, especially if you count reserves.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:58 pm
by UglyTruth
Holiday would be such a dumb pick. He played a **** ton of minutes are UCLA and his stats were still not impressive at all.
Pretty undersized too.
But of course the Suns love brothers so he’s destined to be a Sun smh.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:21 pm
by specialsauce
A PG who shoots the 3 well, low TO rate, and is a good defender with decent distribution? Hardly a dumb pick.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:35 pm
by UglyTruth
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:21 pm
A PG who shoots the 3 well,
low TO rate, and is a good defender with decent distribution? Hardly a dumb pick.
Are you being sarcastic? His 5.8 assists/3.8 turnovers ratio is god awful and iirc is like the 8th or 9th worst ratio among 1st rd drafted college point guards in the past 15 years.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:38 pm
by UglyTruth
The fact that he has such a bad turnover problem despite being one of the most oldest and experienced players in the entire draft speaks volumes about his basketball IQ.
He projects to be a poor man’s Brandon Knight imo.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:50 am
by Flagrant Fowl
I have also cooled on Holiday at #16, but I'm fine with him at #31.
I think he'll stick in the league, but I'm not sure he's a reliable starter and there are higher floor players available at #16.
Re: Who's your top guy at 16 if we keep the pick.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:46 am
by Shabazz
Unless SGA is available at 16, I don't think we should use that pick on a PG. We've got enough backup PGs on this team and the players in that range are not players you can start from day 1.