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Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:47 am
by Ring_Wanted
Trying Ayton and Baynes together makes all the sense. You need to tinker with the bench but it can really pay off since Baynes helps covering a lot of Ayton's current flaws and doesn't clog space.
The other lineup adjustment I was considering from the beginning was Oubre from the bench and Bridges starting, but the way Tsunami Papi is playing there is no way you bench him (and Bridges is showing too little offensively to reward him like that).
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:20 am
by LazarusLong
Re: Knicks ... some random interest in getting Randle or Portis on this board.
The real bargain on that roster is Mitchell Robinson.
Although he was a second-round pick, he has the second highest VORP of the 2018 draft class.
Mikal Bridges is fourth.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:41 am
by Wally_West
Superbone wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:32 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:12 am
Ayton has played 5 games this season.
In those 5 games, he has missed all together 30 games...
Wow, that's impressive how he was able to miss 30 games in only 5 games. Frankly, I didn't even know it was possible. Forget learning how to box out and be aggressive...
Lol! I should’ve phrased that better.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:19 pm
by JeremyG
Proof Ayton is on drugs and thus has to take diuretics to mask them (j/k...maybe):
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:43 pm
by carey
JeremyG wrote:Proof Ayton is on drugs and thus has to take diuretics to mask them (j/k...maybe):
The more I learn about him and see of him the less I like. He’s no Tsunami Papi that’s for sure.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:12 pm
by INFORMER
Nodack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:17 am
I was excited to see the Ayton Baynes combo as were many I’m sure. The experiment was ok for a first time. It seems to force Baynes into the side threes where he is much less accurate than his straight away ones.
Interesting observation.
I thought those were good looks at the end of the game; he definitely needs to be able to hit those.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:30 pm
by LazarusLong
In theory, yes. EJ commented that Baynes probably is comfortable shooting treys from the top of the circle as the backboard provides a better target and perspective.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:42 pm
by In2ition
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:12 pm
Nodack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:17 am
I was excited to see the Ayton Baynes combo as were many I’m sure. The experiment was ok for a first time. It seems to force Baynes into the side threes where he is much less accurate than his straight away ones.
Interesting observation.
I thought those were good looks at the end of the game; he definitely needs to be able to hit those.
Those were good looks, but he's not very good at 3's anywhere other than the top of the key.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:26 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:42 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:12 pm
Nodack wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:17 am
I was excited to see the Ayton Baynes combo as were many I’m sure. The experiment was ok for a first time. It seems to force Baynes into the side threes where he is much less accurate than his straight away ones.
Interesting observation.
I thought those were good looks at the end of the game; he definitely needs to be able to hit those.
Those were good looks, but he's not very good at 3's anywhere other than the top of the key.
He needs to take notes from PJ Tucker on corner 3s in Phoenix.
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:21 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:20 am
Re: Knicks ... some random interest in getting Randle or Portis on this board.
The real bargain on that roster is Mitchell Robinson.
Although he was a second-round pick, he has the second highest VORP of the 2018 draft class.
Mikal Bridges is fourth.
Of course he is, but NY would be absolutely crazy or stupid to have him available... on a second tought... could we please start the phone call trying to get him straight up for Kaminsky??? You never know with those guys...
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:29 am
by O_Gardino
Ayton and Baynes starting together is partly about adding defense to the front line, partly about putting the best players on the court as much as possible, and partly how bad Dario has been.
I was a big Saric supporter this summer, but boy has he been a disappointment. The problem for him - and this is 100% on him - is that he has been at his best in the first quarter. He has had a few moments late in games, but overall he has just been bad in quarters 2-4. So losing his starting spot means he losses his only productive minutes.He looks like he lost his fire to compete.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... oting/2020
Code: Select all
Quarter FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% eFG% Ast'd %Ast'd
1st 57 114 .500 20 54 .370 .588 43 .754
2nd 25 57 .439 9 30 .300 .518 23 .920
3rd 36 90 .400 13 42 .310 .472 28 .778
4th 18 48 .375 8 26 .308 .458 15 .833
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:31 am
by Indy
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:34 pm
Is this Bookers best stretch of his career?
yes
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:39 am
by Indy
specialsauce wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:01 pm
It’s not a rebound if he doesn’t rub his butt up against someone. I am desperate to see some butt rubbing
this
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:45 am
by Mori Chu
That's really interesting about Saric and the 1st quarter. What to make of that information? Does he get fatigued? Does the team go away from him after the first quarter? Should we play him in the first and then bench him for the rest of the game?
Re: Game Day: Knicks (10-24) @ Suns (13-21), Fri 1/3/20
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:51 am
by Cap
Indy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:31 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:34 pm
Is this Bookers best stretch of his career?
yes
In terms of individual stats, he had a pretty remarkable run in March. 11 straight games of 25+, including 59-50-48 in consecutive games. Also had double-digit assists in five of those games.
Didn’t translate to team success though. When he scored 59, we lost by 33. That feat is likely to remain unmatched for a very long time.