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Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
by JeremyG
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:15 pm
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:01 pm
I want to hibernate for a week, to keep out of the highs and lows that tend to happen when I refresh my twitter feed every minute during the trade deadline. Wake me up when it's over.
Remember when a trade for KD was rumored for 6 months straight? I think you can handle a couple of weeks.
It was 9 months. There were literally children born before KD was traded who weren’t conceived yet when the rumors started in May 2022.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:26 am
by Mori Chu
JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:23 pm
It was 9 months. There were literally children born before KD was traded who weren’t conceived yet when the rumors started in May 2022.
My third child, my daughter Polly, was born during the 2021 Finals run; she was just barely alive for the Valley-oop. My fourth child was born this year, during the KD and Big Dick Nurk era. Only my fourth child is pure and lived during no part of the Ayton dark days.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:30 am
by Split T
KBD is at 41.6% from 3 in 2024. Okogie is at 33.3%
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:41 pm
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:30 am
KBD is at 41.6% from 3 in 2024. Okogie is at 33.3%
I have been critical of Vogel and don't think he's doing an A+ job as head coach. But I will give him credit for identifying some bench guys who are not working, pulling them from the rotation, and slowly trying to work them back in, and then keeping on giving them minutes if it is working well. Examples of this include: KBD, Okogie, Eubanks, Metu, Bol. Vogel has also been willing to just cut a guy out of the rotation if it's not getting better, such as with Yuta or Goodwin.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:56 pm
by Mori Chu
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:57 pm
by TOO
You can see it too, they are markedly worse across the board when he sits. Which is absurd when you have Beal and KD still on the team.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:06 pm
by TOO
They need a bench PG to run the show while Booker sits, rebounding, and perimeter defenders. Seems impossible.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:08 pm
by Split T
Starting lineup has a 130 offensive rating…they need to figure out the non Booker minutes, but that’s going to come from the guys on the roster. Beal and KD need to figure that out, we can’t waste a rotation spot on another guard. A playmaking 4 would be fine.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:09 pm
by Split T
We should also probably play Nurk with them until we figure it out. Need his playmaking
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:21 pm
by Mori Chu
I think a more ideal version of this team would be to acquire a pretty-good PG like Tyus Jones and start him, then bench Beal and bring in Beal as the first way-overqualified super sub off the bench when the first of Book/KD sits. You can still play Beal 30 minutes a night if you want, just don't start him. People will moan about a $50m bench player, but he can still close games and still get his 20 ppg. I know this will never happen, I just wish we would get a real PG and let Book cook as a score-first SG as he was born to be.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:22 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:09 pm
We should also probably play Nurk with them until we figure it out. Need his playmaking
Then you got Book with Ewwbanks. Not sure I like that.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:23 pm
by Split T
Would you trade Allen for Tyus? Are you just taking EG out of the rotation. How does that solve our size issue?
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:23 pm
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:21 pm
I think a more ideal version of this team would be to acquire a pretty-good PG like Tyus Jones and start him, then bench Beal and bring in Beal as the first way-overqualified super sub off the bench when the first of Book/KD sits. You can still play Beal 30 minutes a night if you want, just don't start him. People will moan about a $50m bench player, but he can still close games and still get his 20 ppg. I know this will never happen, I just wish we would get a real PG and let Book cook as a score-first SG as he was born to be.
No no no no no. Booker is the starting PG, the starting lineup is not the problem.
The bench minutes while Booker sits is the issue, taking the ball outta his hands with the starters doesn't solve anything.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:24 pm
by Split T
TOO wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:22 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:09 pm
We should also probably play Nurk with them until we figure it out. Need his playmaking
Then you got Book with Ewwbanks. Not sure I like that.
True…but Book might have to carry that weight if we’re going to keep crapping the bed with Book on the bench.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:04 pm
by Superbone
Chill dude.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:25 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:23 pm
Would you trade Allen for Tyus? Are you just taking EG out of the rotation. How does that solve our size issue?
Fuck EG’s low IQ self
No it doesn’t solve our size issue though.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:41 pm
by Wally_West
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:57 pm
by Split T
lol
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:58 pm
by JeremyG
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:21 pm
I think a more ideal version of this team would be to acquire a pretty-good PG like Tyus Jones and start him, then bench Beal and bring in Beal as the first way-overqualified super sub off the bench when the first of Book/KD sits. You can still play Beal 30 minutes a night if you want, just don't start him.
I like this. Kind of like the “M&M boys” in the 90s. It works fine if the player accepts coming off the bench.
Another reason to do this would actually be to help Beal thrive also. He seems to be struggling to find his place in the offense.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 (1/29/24 - 2/4/24)
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:54 am
by Wally_West
lol people hate us so much.
