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Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:57 pm
by Drewsprocket
Trade a Oubre for a point guard please. Is he worth McConnell or any other PGs?

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:27 am
by Flagrant Fowl
Spoiler Alert: Kelly Oubre Jr. isn't very good and most teams around the league know it.

Maybe he can be flipped if he somehow shows something he didn't in Washington, but I'm not holding my breath.

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:55 am
by Mori Chu
My fear for Oubre is that he tries to prove that he can be a big-time scorer by chucking too much. I get the impression that he isn't a good enough shooter to justify giving him every shot in our offense, even in our bench unit. We'll see how he fits in.

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am
by Cap
Rivers is waived already and we don’t seem to have room for Oubre. Washington really wanted Ariza. Shouldn’t we have been able to get something in the deal? We couldn’t get the Wiz to throw in a second-round pick and some cash for the arena?

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:10 am
by Split T
Cap wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am
Rivers is waived already and we don’t seem to have room for Oubre. Washington really wanted Ariza. Shouldn’t we have been able to get something in the deal? We couldn’t get the Wiz to throw in a second-round pick and some cash for the arena?
If we had room for Ariza, why wouldn’t we have room for Oubre?

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:14 am
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:55 am
My fear for Oubre is that he tries to prove that he can be a big-time scorer by chucking too much. I get the impression that he isn't a good enough shooter to justify giving him every shot in our offense, even in our bench unit. We'll see how he fits in.



“Defense leads to offense. Just focus on that, just continue to keep that gameplan solid,” Oubre said. “I’m a confident individual but one thing I know I can control everyday is my effort and my energy. I will do that each and every night. My offense will follow. I’m not really worried about that because I know I can play.”

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:15 am
by Shabazz
I don’t understand how we traded with Washington and didn’t get Satoransky.

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:16 am
by Split T
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:15 am
I don’t understand how we traded with Washington and didn’t get Satoransky.
Probably because Washington was unwilling to trade him

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:58 am
by Superbone
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:16 am
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:15 am
I don’t understand how we traded with Washington and didn’t get Satoransky.
Probably because Washington was unwilling to trade him
It's as simple as that. They have big plans for him.

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:52 am
by SDC
Cap wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am
Rivers is waived already and we don’t seem to have room for Oubre. Washington really wanted Ariza. Shouldn’t we have been able to get something in the deal? We couldn’t get the Wiz to throw in a second-round pick and some cash for the arena?

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:57 am
by JCSunsfan
Cap wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am
Rivers is waived already and we don’t seem to have room for Oubre. Washington really wanted Ariza. Shouldn’t we have been able to get something in the deal? We couldn’t get the Wiz to throw in a second-round pick and some cash for the arena?
We have 96 minutes at the forward positions, and I assume Mikal will play about 15 or so a game at SG. So that is 110 minutes for TJ, Oubre, JJ, and Mikal. That's almost 28 minutes each. Plenty of minutes to go around.

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:08 am
by TOO
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:14 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:55 am
My fear for Oubre is that he tries to prove that he can be a big-time scorer by chucking too much. I get the impression that he isn't a good enough shooter to justify giving him every shot in our offense, even in our bench unit. We'll see how he fits in.



“Defense leads to offense. Just focus on that, just continue to keep that gameplan solid,” Oubre said. “I’m a confident individual but one thing I know I can control everyday is my effort and my energy. I will do that each and every night. My offense will follow. I’m not really worried about that because I know I can play.”
Someone show this to Josh Jackson ASAP.

Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:44 pm
by JCSunsfan
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:27 am
Spoiler Alert: Kelly Oubre Jr. isn't very good and most teams around the league know it.

Maybe he can be flipped if he somehow shows something he didn't in Washington, but I'm not holding my breath.
At least Oubre is not going to stand around on D.


Re: Suns trade Ariza to Wizards - for real.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:00 pm
by INFORMER
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:10 am
Cap wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:56 am
Rivers is waived already and we don’t seem to have room for Oubre. Washington really wanted Ariza. Shouldn’t we have been able to get something in the deal? We couldn’t get the Wiz to throw in a second-round pick and some cash for the arena?
If we had room for Ariza, why wouldn’t we have room for Oubre?
We didn't have room for Ariza. We were helped out by injuries, but when everyone is healthy, it just means more Point Booker.