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Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:24 pm
by 1tinsoldier
the only good thing i can say about this game
is that based on the crappy play i saw from both Fox (7 points, 0 assists) and Jackson (7 points, 4 turnovers)
i'd still take Jackson before Fox

the worst thing i can say
is that based on us not having any competent player we could go to in the 4th
when we do get Booker back
they're going to triple team him

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:49 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:Well, the Kings went on a big run and now the Suns are in the hole in the 4th. Not sure if the good guys win tonight.
The young Suns got a lesson tonight in how not to finish a basketball game.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:50 pm
by Superbone
No question in my mind that we win this game with Booker.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:48 am
by Shabazz
I know we have a lot of draft assets, but it's an impressive accomplishment by McDonough to have had the position for as long as he's had it and to have a roster with 1.5 players that we can depend on night in and night out.

We may have both the worst point guard AND power forward rotations in the league.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:00 am
by LazarusLong
Superbone wrote:
In2ition wrote:Well, the Kings went on a big run and now the Suns are in the hole in the 4th. Not sure if the good guys win tonight.
The young Suns got a lesson tonight in how not to finish a basketball game.
Suns were up 85-80, then Kings went on a 19-7 run with about 7 minutes left to put the game away.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:34 am
by carey
Shabazz wrote:I know we have a lot of draft assets, but it's an impressive accomplishment by McDonough to have had the position for as long as he's had it and to have a roster with 1.5 players that we can depend on night in and night out.

We may have both the worst point guard AND power forward rotations in the league.
Yeah, he's gotta go.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:36 am
by O_Gardino
Very nice to see Bender back in the mix. If he rebounded like this every night, it would be very hard to take him off the court. I still believe he can be good, I just hope he has the toughness to be good consistently.

Speaking of consistency, Josh Jackson is a rookie. Since he's been starting, he has mostly been pretty good in the first 6 minutes of the game. Then he's pretty bad for the rest of the game. Last night, I think he started 2-2 with an assist. Then he played 25 more minutes and went 1-12 with only one more assist. He isn't yet adjusting to the other team's first adjustment.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:04 am
by djy2j
Shabazz wrote:I know we have a lot of draft assets, but it's an impressive accomplishment by McDonough to have had the position for as long as he's had it and to have a roster with 1.5 players that we can depend on night in and night out.

We may have both the worst point guard AND power forward rotations in the league.
Truly is amazing isn't it?

I only watched the first half. Looks like they picked up the intensity. But also the sloppiness. Plenty of turnovers to go around. At least Bender remembered that he's allowed to shoot.

Heard them say Len leads the league in rebounds off the bench. More minutes please. No reason for Chandler to be playing more than him.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:46 am
by bajanguy008
LazarusLong wrote:
Superbone wrote:
In2ition wrote:Well, the Kings went on a big run and now the Suns are in the hole in the 4th. Not sure if the good guys win tonight.
The young Suns got a lesson tonight in how not to finish a basketball game.
Suns were up 85-80, then Kings went on a 19-7 run with about 7 minutes left to put the game away.
I dropped to sleep as usual and just finished and this was my biggest takeway. To expand on what Laz said, we didn't score again til 1:40 left and the Kings were on a 13-0 run by then and leading 93-85. I'm still undecided if it was more a learning experience for the young team or if Triano got his subs wrong. I think Chriss should have been in for Chandler as he actually did a good job on Z-Bo for 3 quarters, plus not sure closing with both Ulis and Mike James was ideal

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:14 pm
by Shabazz
carey wrote:
Shabazz wrote:I know we have a lot of draft assets, but it's an impressive accomplishment by McDonough to have had the position for as long as he's had it and to have a roster with 1.5 players that we can depend on night in and night out.

We may have both the worst point guard AND power forward rotations in the league.
Yeah, he's gotta go.
I'm not even advocating firing him. It does highlight the lack of return on the Bledsoe trade, considering he was a valuable asset, several teams were in need of his talents and we couldn't come out of the deal with a single piece to immediately add to our young core.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:44 pm
by Mori Chu
Bledsoe basically instantly became the 2nd best player on the Bucks. And they gave up noooooothing to get him.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:38 am
by ShelC
We shouldn't have taken their calls until they included Brogdon.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:32 pm
by Split T
We'd still have Bledsoe on the team in that case. And Middleton is better than Bledsoe.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:06 am
by Ring_Wanted
Split T wrote:We'd still have Bledsoe on the team in that case. And Middleton is better than Bledsoe.
And Jabari, when he plays.

And let's not forget the player affected his value by 1.- giving no shit the three games he played and 2.- plublicly demanding a trade.

Still, he should have been traded last deadline or this past draft.

Re: Game Day: Suns (9-19) @ Kings (8-18), Tues 12/12/17

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:43 am
by Split T
Yep, held onto him too long. I can understand keeping him if he expresses a desire to stay, but he's wanted out for awhile. You can't hold onto unhappy vets when you're rebuilding. You move them quick before they tank their value by going public.