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Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:30 pm
by In2ition
carey wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:08 am
I could see him settling in as a 22 & 12 guy. 15 rebs a game is pretty crazy to do and thus the elite company he'd be in.
It does feel like there are about 4 or more boards that he could get if he becomes consistent on boxing out/getting position along with pursuing offensive boards.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:31 pm
by Split T
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:26 am
Yea the whole "TJ can be our PF averaging 5rbs a game because Ayton will grab 15" argument doesn't fly with me. We're 28th in the league in rebounds, 25th in blocks, 27th in defensive rating, 22nd in opponents 2nd chance points and 29th in opponents points in the paint. That's not all on TJ and those numbers are probably skewed from our bad start at the beginning of the season but you get the picture.
Well if you’re referring to my comment, it was an If Ayton is a 15 rebound guy and plays defense like he did in OT against Orlando, then TJ is fine. Our rebounding/defensive numbers are bad because Ayton has not been that guy outside of a few moments this year. Dallas is a good rebounding team that doesn’t have great rebounding at the 4. The Jazz are above average and spend a lot of time with bad rebounders at the 4 next to Gobert.
I do think having someone in the rotation that has rebounding/defense in their skill set is pretty important. Would have been really useful to play them next to Ayton/Holmes in the wizards game down the stretch. But if Ayton becomes the rebounding/defensive force of a De’Andre Jordan or Rudy Gobert, we can be fine with warren playing a lot of minutes at the 4.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:52 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:31 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:26 am
Yea the whole "TJ can be our PF averaging 5rbs a game because Ayton will grab 15" argument doesn't fly with me. We're 28th in the league in rebounds, 25th in blocks, 27th in defensive rating, 22nd in opponents 2nd chance points and 29th in opponents points in the paint. That's not all on TJ and those numbers are probably skewed from our bad start at the beginning of the season but you get the picture.
Well if you’re referring to my comment, it was an If Ayton is a 15 rebound guy and plays defense like he did in OT against Orlando, then TJ is fine. Our rebounding/defensive numbers are bad because Ayton has not been that guy outside of a few moments this year. Dallas is a good rebounding team that doesn’t have great rebounding at the 4. The Jazz are above average and spend a lot of time with bad rebounders at the 4 next to Gobert.
I do think having someone in the rotation that has rebounding/defense in their skill set is pretty important. Would have been really useful to play them next to Ayton/Holmes in the wizards game down the stretch. But if Ayton becomes the rebounding/defensive force of a De’Andre Jordan or Rudy Gobert, we can be fine with warren playing a lot of minutes at the 4.
Idk why, but I'm pretty convinced that the PF gets addressed this off-season.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:57 pm
by Split T
I’m sure it will too. We have a high pick and a good amount of Money to spend. So we’ve got 2 pretty obvious needs with 2 easy ways to fill them. I think we’ll either draft a pf and sign a pg or draft a pg and sign a pg. Although I guess trading the pick is an option too.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:34 pm
by MightyMoog
I'd actually trade the pick now so long as it's top 3 protected. I don't think we need another prospect that's going to take time developing. If the pick and Bender and Ryno's contract can net us something like a Jrue Holiday. I think we do it.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:09 pm
by specialsauce
MightyMoog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:34 pm
I'd actually trade the pick now so long as it's top 3 protected. I don't think we need another prospect that's going to take time developing. If the pick and Bender and Ryno's contract can net us something like a Jrue Holiday. I think we do it.
Uh I’d do that in a second. I love Holidays game
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:38 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Xylus wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:16 am
Ayton needs to rebound like a mofo.
Last time we played OKC, Ayton had his 21-9 but Adams torched us. We'll see how he adapts.
JJ and Oubre need to minimize their mistakes.
JJ is always an enigma, but I am liking what Oubre is doing.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:40 pm
by Ring_Wanted
In2ition wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:52 pm
Idk why, but I'm pretty convinced that the PF gets addressed this off-season.
You can't never be sure. After 13-14 we needed a big man and went and added literally the opposite in IT. We'll see if Jones makes the same mistakes of McD.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:02 pm
by bajanguy008
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 5:55 pm
by Split T
MightyMoog wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:34 pm
I'd actually trade the pick now so long as it's top 3 protected. I don't think we need another prospect that's going to take time developing. If the pick and Bender and Ryno's contract can net us something like a Jrue Holiday. I think we do it.
I’d trade it too. Especially if we could pick up a mid 1st in the deal. I’d only protect it top 1. I like Zion and then a lot of guys in the late lotto to mid 1st range. I’m not super high on the high lotto prospects in this draft.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:14 pm
by EDC
I really dislike Westbrook. What was that bump on Bridges after the play? I swear he is such a punk.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:34 pm
by Xylus
Terrible quarter defensively. They just 7SOL’d us to death.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:34 pm
by Cap
What happened to Schroder’s color patch? He doesn’t look like himself without it.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:34 pm
by bajanguy008
Another 36pts given up in the 1st
Time for bench unit to do their thing again I guess
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:35 pm
by Xylus
Crawford with two turnovers in two minutes.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:35 pm
by Mori Chu
Westbrook is really having his way with us. He's shooting 7-8 so far. Booker shooting only 1-7. We have zero bench scoring so far. At least Ayton and Warren are having pretty good games.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:46 pm
by Xylus
We took the lead. Wow.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:47 pm
by bajanguy008
bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:34 pm
Another 36pts given up in the 1st
Time for bench unit to do their thing again I guess
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:49 pm
by Mori Chu
Suns are moving the ball really well right now. Good on them.
Re: Game Day: Thunder (21-12) @ Suns (9-26), Fri 12/28/18
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:53 pm
by EDC
Ayton still needs to work on the confidence a bit. When you have the ball in the lane with a little guy on you do not look to pass the ball.
