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Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:21 pm
by TOO
I think it's funny that people think a PG fixes things. That's not the problem. It's effort and execution, especially defensively and on the boards.
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:05 pm
by specialsauce
TOO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:21 pm
I think it's funny that people think a PG fixes things. That's not the problem. It's effort and execution, especially defensively and on the boards.
If it’s consistently an effort and execution problem and it’s across the whole team, then I think what you’re really trying to say is that it’s ineffective coaching.
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:17 pm
by TOO
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:05 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:21 pm
I think it's funny that people think a PG fixes things. That's not the problem. It's effort and execution, especially defensively and on the boards.
If it’s consistently an effort and execution problem and it’s across the whole team, then I think what you’re really trying to say is that it’s ineffective coaching.
I dont think it's just Vogel, I think it'd KD and Booker too. They have this holier than thou attitude right now and it sucks
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:23 pm
by Mori Chu
I've said this before, but I just don't think it ever makes sense to blame a team's bad performance on "effort." Every team is out there trying hard. Some teams have better players than others, or players who fit together better. Some have better chemistry, coaching, practices, preparation than others. It's not a pickup game; you don't really win or lose on "effort."
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:31 pm
by TOO
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:23 pm
I've said this before, but I just don't think it ever makes sense to blame a team's bad performance on "effort." Every team is out there trying hard. Some teams have better players than others, or players who fit together better. Some have better chemistry, coaching, practices, preparation than others. It's not a pickup game; you don't really win or lose on "effort."
Hard disagree. The Suns starters have routinely been outplayed by teams bench squads, just because the bench guys are out there going 100mph and Suns starters can't match the effort.
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:01 pm
by specialsauce
TOO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:17 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:05 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:21 pm
I think it's funny that people think a PG fixes things. That's not the problem. It's effort and execution, especially defensively and on the boards.
If it’s consistently an effort and execution problem and it’s across the whole team, then I think what you’re really trying to say is that it’s ineffective coaching.
I dont think it's just Vogel, I think it'd KD and Booker too. They have this holier than thou attitude right now and it sucks
Yup agree coaching AND leadership
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:18 pm
by specialsauce
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:23 pm
I've said this before, but I just don't think it ever makes sense to blame a team's bad performance on "effort." Every team is out there trying hard. Some teams have better players than others, or players who fit together better. Some have better chemistry, coaching, practices, preparation than others. It's not a pickup game; you don't really win or lose on "effort."
Maybe don’t say it again, guy!
Re: What does this team need most?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:41 pm
by Sunsfanatic76
https://fadeawayworld.net/5-reasons-why ... -superteam
5 Reasons Why The Phoenix Suns Will Be Another Failed Superteam
The Suns built a superteam this season that may fail to win a championship.
FRAN LEIVA
UPDATED:10 HOURS AGO
ORIGINAL:12 HOURS AGO
This article actually identifies are core issues pretty accurately.
1- Injury Riddled Superstars.
2- A Mediocre Defensive Cast.
3- Phoenix Lacks Enough Creators To Sustain An Elite Offense.
4- Under Average Bench Production.
5- Too Many Eggs In One Basket.