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Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:15 pm
by specialsauce
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:12 pm
I heard Greg Moore on a podcast recently and wasn't impressed. He sounded like a typical shill who won't step out of bounds to call it what it is just to save his access to the team. Not to mention he plugged his columns at every half opportunity.
He's really bad.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:33 pm
by Shabazz
Maybe this deserves it's own thread, but what do you guys think of the current crop of Suns podcasts. I listen to a few and not every episode, but I'd rank them like this:
1. 7 seconds or less pod: A newer one, but it quickly jumped to the top. Even though neither host is an "insider" their show is entertaining, they give reasonable non-fanboy opinions and it's well produced.
2. Empire of the Suns: I like Kellan and Zimmerman. They both have some access to the team so there's an insider element. Kellan knows his stuff, but sometimes comes across as a little too much of a "know it all."
3. Locked on Suns: They both have access to the team and I like Brandon Kleen. Evan Sidery is a little green, though. He sounds his age. The audio quality is usually pretty poor, too.
4. The Solar Panel: Espo seems like a nice guy and he's passionate, but.... you guys know. His "ball-busting" banter with Dave King is also not nearly as funny as they think it is based on how often they do it and for how long they often drag it on. I usually only listen when the topic or guest seems compelling.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:21 pm
by Cap
Shabazz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:33 pm
7 seconds or less pod:
Damn liars. Episodes are actually about an hour long.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:27 pm
by Danimal
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:21 pm
Shabazz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:33 pm
7 seconds or less pod:
Damn liars. Episodes are actually about an hour long.
This guy is always on
7/10
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:35 pm
by jonh
Maybe they flew into town to hear Mikal sing?
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:35 pm
by Danimal
7sol; only listed a few times but thought it was good.
Empire of the sun: it’s ok. Can drone on about stats a bit too much
Locked on: I appreciated that they do their pods the most frequently and it really helps get through the offseason. But the hosts are so monotone and crap on about stats non stop it feels like an econometrics lecture. They also tend to agree with each other all the time. It’s much better when they have a guest on.
Solar panel: I like that their is actually some debate on this show. But yes Espo can go off on rants and tangents too much which I don’t think are as entertaining as he thinks they are.
Fanning the flames: a couple of kids running a pod. One does annoying movie quotes as his intro for some reason. It’s much more opinion based which can be somewhat refreshing compared to some other pods. But I generally only listen to it to get me through the offseason.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:37 pm
by In2ition
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:12 pm
I heard Greg Moore on a podcast recently and wasn't impressed. He sounded like a typical shill who won't step out of bounds to call it what it is just to save his access to the team. Not to mention he plugged his columns at every half opportunity.
I heard the podcast too, but really enjoyed Greg. He actually sounded like he knew what was going on, unlike the former beat writers.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:55 pm
by In2ition
Welcome Melton and Anderson! Sorry to see you leave, Chriss and Knight.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:00 pm
by Split T
In2ition wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:55 pm
Welcome Melton and Anderson! Sorry to see you leave, Chriss and Knight.
Woah! Don't like Anderson's contract... But they did take Knight, so that's good. Melton is a fantastic defender... If he can shoot, he's real nice next to Booker. Who starts at PG? Gotta be Booker now, right?
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:06 pm
by Split T
Kinda makes Harrison redundant with Melton coming... Is there another move lined up for a PG? Have we had this one lined up for awhile and just waited till Melton was tradeable?
Is Anderson gonna play? Don't like him defensively, but if Bender struggles to shoot, Anderson can slide into his role.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:07 pm
by Cap
I don’t get this from Houston’s perspective. Anderson is actually a useful player. Why would anyone want to trade him for junk like Chriss and Knight? Yeah, his contract is nasty, but better to pay $20M to someone who can play than $18M to Chriss and Knight.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:08 pm
by In2ition
Harrison, Melton and Okobo are a crew of defensive pgs that hopefully can shoot. Anderson is now the stretch 4 who replaces Chriss and provides veteran leadership with Ariza and Chandler.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:52 am
by Ring_Wanted
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:07 pm
I don’t get this from Houston’s perspective. Anderson is actually a useful player. Why would anyone want to trade him for junk like Chriss and Knight? Yeah, his contract is nasty, but better to pay $20M to someone who can play than $18M to Chriss and Knight.
Trash for trash (plus a little of potential). Each team thinks what they are getting is better for them than what they send out, of which they are clearly fed up.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:30 am
by Aztec Sunsfan
If there is someone that can restore Brandon Knight's confidence and turn him into a NBA player again, that person is Mike D'Antoni.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:39 am
by Indy
Shabazz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:33 pm
Maybe this deserves it's own thread, but what do you guys think of the current crop of Suns podcasts. I listen to a few and not every episode, but I'd rank them like this:
1.
7 seconds or less pod: A newer one, but it quickly jumped to the top. Even though neither host is an "insider" their show is entertaining, they give reasonable non-fanboy opinions and it's well produced.
2.
Empire of the Suns: I like Kellan and Zimmerman. They both have some access to the team so there's an insider element. Kellan knows his stuff, but sometimes comes across as a little too much of a "know it all."
3.
Locked on Suns: They both have access to the team and I like Brandon Kleen. Evan Sidery is a little green, though. He sounds his age. The audio quality is usually pretty poor, too.
4.
The Solar Panel: Espo seems like a nice guy and he's passionate, but.... you guys know. His "ball-busting" banter with Dave King is also not nearly as funny as they think it is based on how often they do it and for how long they often drag it on. I usually only listen when the topic or guest seems compelling.
I haven't listened to Locked on Suns, but have the others. I gave up on Solar Panel because I just couldn't take it anymore. But I like 7sol and Empire. I would put them in that order too.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:00 am
by O_Gardino
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:07 pm
I don’t get this from Houston’s perspective. Anderson is actually a useful player. Why would anyone want to trade him for junk like Chriss and Knight? Yeah, his contract is nasty, but better to pay $20M to someone who can play than $18M to Chriss and Knight.
Anderson was ABUSED in the playoffs, and they stopped playing him. I think Chriss and Knight could look good playing for Mike D.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:38 am
by The Bobster
SF Warren ($11.5 M), Jackson ($6 M), King (two-way contract)
PF Ariza ($15 M), Anderson ($20.4 M), Holmes ($1.6 M), Arthur ($7.5 M)
C Ayton ($8.2 M), Bender ($4.7 M), Chandler ($13.6 M)
PG Harrison ($1.4 M), Okobo ($1.2 M), Melton (unsigned), Canaan ($1.8 M)
SG Booker ($3.3 M), Bridges ($3.6 M), Daniels ($3.3 M), Reed ($1.3 M)
Arthur, Chandler and Daniels are obvious choices to be used as throw-ins in deals since all three have expiring contracts.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:41 am
by The Bobster
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:00 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:07 pm
I don’t get this from Houston’s perspective. Anderson is actually a useful player. Why would anyone want to trade him for junk like Chriss and Knight? Yeah, his contract is nasty, but better to pay $20M to someone who can play than $18M to Chriss and Knight.
Anderson was ABUSED in the playoffs, and they stopped playing him. I think Chriss and Knight could look good playing for Mike D.
But Anderson managed to start 50 games last season for the team with the best record in the league. So I can live with any abuse he gets in the playoffs if the Suns qualify this year!
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:04 am
by O_Gardino
The Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:41 am
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:00 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:07 pm
I don’t get this from Houston’s perspective. Anderson is actually a useful player. Why would anyone want to trade him for junk like Chriss and Knight? Yeah, his contract is nasty, but better to pay $20M to someone who can play than $18M to Chriss and Knight.
Anderson was ABUSED in the playoffs, and they stopped playing him. I think Chriss and Knight could look good playing for Mike D.
But Anderson managed to start 50 games last season for the team with the best record in the league. So I can live with any abuse he gets in the playoffs if the Suns qualify this year!
Agreed. I'm not knocking the trade, just pointing out why Houston would do it.
Re: 2018 Suns Offseason News
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:06 am
by Cap
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:04 am
The Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:41 am
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:00 am
Cap wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:07 pm
I don’t get this from Houston’s perspective. Anderson is actually a useful player. Why would anyone want to trade him for junk like Chriss and Knight? Yeah, his contract is nasty, but better to pay $20M to someone who can play than $18M to Chriss and Knight.
Anderson was ABUSED in the playoffs, and they stopped playing him. I think Chriss and Knight could look good playing for Mike D.
But Anderson managed to start 50 games last season for the team with the best record in the league. So I can live with any abuse he gets in the playoffs if the Suns qualify this year!
Agreed. I'm not knocking the trade, just pointing out why Houston would do it.
If MikeD gets quality production out of Chriss and Knight, he gets my vote for COTY.