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Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:18 pm
by Cap
TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:38 pm
O_Gardino wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:06 pm
No way the 6ers give up Fultz for Jackson, but I'd do that trade in a heartbeat.
Nope. Jackson has been bad, but Fultz is a certified mess. He's broken, and this team isn't fixing anything.
Toronto and shot guru Nick Nurse should make a run at him, maybe the Spurs, anywhere else I think he's doomed.
I would do the trade. Jackson is our third-best young SF behind Warren and Bridges, and as such shouldn’t even be playing. Fultz could come in and probably start for us. We’ve been begging for a PG who can make an entry pass, and Fultz can at least do that better than any of the PGs we have now (not saying much, I know). JJ wouldn’t be much of a sacrifice, so I’d take a chance on Fultz.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:12 pm
by The Bobster
Cleveland defeats Charlotte tonight putting them in a tie with the Suns for the worst record in the league.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:47 pm
by Cap
The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:12 pm
Cleveland defeats Charlotte tonight putting them in a tie with the Suns for the worst record in the league.
Right now, the Cavs aren’t our competition. These teams are:
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Rk Season Tm Lg G W L W/L% MOV
1 1992-93 DAL NBA 82 11 71 .134 -15.20
2 2011-12 CHA NBA 66 7 59 .106 -13.91
3 2018-19 PHO NBA 13 2 11 .154 -13.54
4 1972-73 PHI NBA 82 9 73 .110 -12.09
5 1997-98 DEN NBA 82 11 71 .134 -11.78
6 1982-83 HOU NBA 82 14 68 .171 -11.60
7 1947-48 PRO BAA 48 6 42 .125 -11.56
8 1999-00 LAC NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.52
9 1949-50 DNN NBA 62 11 51 .177 -11.50
10 1986-87 LAC NBA 82 12 70 .146 -11.43
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Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:41 pm
by Indy
Cap wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:47 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:12 pm
Cleveland defeats Charlotte tonight putting them in a tie with the Suns for the worst record in the league.
Right now, the Cavs aren’t our competition. These teams are:
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Rk Season Tm Lg G W L W/L% MOV
1 1992-93 DAL NBA 82 11 71 .134 -15.20
2 2011-12 CHA NBA 66 7 59 .106 -13.91
3 2018-19 PHO NBA 13 2 11 .154 -13.54
4 1972-73 PHI NBA 82 9 73 .110 -12.09
5 1997-98 DEN NBA 82 11 71 .134 -11.78
6 1982-83 HOU NBA 82 14 68 .171 -11.60
7 1947-48 PRO BAA 48 6 42 .125 -11.56
8 1999-00 LAC NBA 82 15 67 .183 -11.52
9 1949-50 DNN NBA 62 11 51 .177 -11.50
10 1986-87 LAC NBA 82 12 70 .146 -11.43
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Generated 11/13/2018.
I am surprised our 1996-97 team isn't on that list. I guess our first 13 games were closer than I remember...
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 8:43 pm
by Indy
Oh, was thinking this was just through the first 13 games at first glance...
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:30 pm
by Mori Chu
For what it's worth, on the Hawks this year Alex Len is averaging 10.4 ppg on .509 FG% and 5.5 rpg in about 22 minutes/game.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... nal01.html
Rooting for the guy. I think he was a serviceable center. I think I would have preferred us to keep Len and draft Doncic than what we ended up doing. But to each his own.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:58 pm
by INFORMER
Fultz is a waste of time.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:54 pm
by Hermen
Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:27 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:00 am
I think Fultz is damaged goods. His shoulder may never be right again and it's in his head now as well.
Something I've been thinking about since watching him closely a few time this season; I'm not completely sure that he actually enjoys playing basketball.
To be fair, I don't think anyone would enjoy playing in his place right now. His shot is broken and every one he takes goes viral.
By all indications though, he is working on it a lot. It's how this mess started, supposedly.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:42 am
by UglyTruth
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:30 pm
For what it's worth, on the Hawks this year Alex Len is averaging 10.4 ppg on .509 FG% and 5.5 rpg in about 22 minutes/game.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... nal01.html
Rooting for the guy. I think he was a serviceable center. I think I would have preferred us to keep Len and draft Doncic than what we ended up doing. But to each his own.
I think this is what most of us who watched Ayton’s passiveness and softness at Arizona preferred.
Or forget Len, take Robinson with the pick they used on Okobo.
Doncic
Booker
Ariza
Warren
Robinson
Before anyone says that Doncic is playing PF or SF for the Mavs, he’s playing point forward which he could have done here as well by us just moving Booker to the PG spot.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:19 am
by Shabazz
I know a lot of people on this board don't like him, but Draymond Green would be the absolute perfect fit at the 4 for this team. With all the drama around Golden State, I wonder if there's an avenue to get him this summer. ?/Booker/Bridges/Green/Ayton is a really good foundation.
(Durant wouldn't look bad at the 4 either)
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:41 am
by specialsauce
Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:19 am
I know a lot of people on this board don't like him, but Draymond Green would be the absolute perfect fit at the 4 for this team. With all the drama around Golden State, I wonder if there's an avenue to get him this summer. ?/Booker/Bridges/Green/Ayton is a really good foundation.
(Durant wouldn't look bad at the 4 either)
I hate the guys antics but I can't help but drool at that possibility.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:00 pm
by Mori Chu
Would Draymond be effective without any PGs who can distribute the ball to him? Without three other historically great 3-point shooters to spread the floor? Without a dynamic coach who gets how to run things on both ends of the floor? Without the whole rest of his team basically being above average to great defensively?
I like Green but I do wonder whether he would really be a star on another team. I think some guys' numbers would go up if you made them "the man;" I think Klay Thompson is an example of this. But I think other guys thrive being the forgotten man on a team of stars, finding spots and lurking in the shadows on offense. Draymond is such a guy IMO. I think he'd be much less effective on, say, the Nets or Hawks.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:09 pm
by Superbone
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:00 pm
Would Draymond be effective without any PGs who can distribute the ball to him? Without three other historically great 3-point shooters to spread the floor? Without a dynamic coach who gets how to run things on both ends of the floor? Without the whole rest of his team basically being above average to great defensively?
I like Green but I do wonder whether he would really be a star on another team. I think some guys' numbers would go up if you made them "the man;" I think Klay Thompson is an example of this. But I think other guys thrive being the forgotten man on a team of stars, finding spots and lurking in the shadows on offense. Draymond is such a guy IMO. I think he'd be much less effective on, say, the Nets or Hawks.
Actually, Green is the distributor on the Warriors. They don't really have a traditional distributing PG.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:45 pm
by Superbone
One Warriors’ player: “With what was said, there is already no way Durant is coming back”
https://nba.nbcsports.com/2018/11/14/on ... ming-back/
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:51 pm
by O_Gardino
The best way for Durant to cement his legacy would be to win a title for the Phoenix Suns. Somebody should mention that to his agent.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:28 pm
by ShelC
i was thinking Booker should start recruiting KD. They got close over the summer right?
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:43 pm
by carey
Dreaming is free.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:55 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I called this one a long time ago. Not that they'd be feuding within the team, but I really thought this would be Durant's last year in Oakland.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:14 pm
by Democritus
This would be a balanced roster.
Rozier
Booker
Bridges
Durant
Ayton
Bench
TJ
JJ
Okobo
Korkmaz
Bender
Holmes
Melton
Is it possible with our cap space? I have no idea but dreaming is free.
Re: Around the League: Week 5 11/12-11/18
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:08 am
by carey
Democritus wrote: ↑Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:14 pm
This would be a balanced roster.
Rozier
Booker
Bridges
Durant
Ayton
Bench
TJ
JJ
Okobo
Korkmaz
Bender
Holmes
Melton
Is it possible with our cap space? I have no idea but dreaming is free.
I don't think so. We didn't pick up Bender's option so he won't be here. We'll stretch Anderson's $15M which will help. But if you believe Scary Terry will get the max he's after then I don't think we can fit Durant's max too. Don't forget we have Ayton making #1 pick money and JJ making a good amount too. I believe we'll have somewhere close to $40M in space with only the following guys signed: Booker, Bridges, Ayton, TJ, JJ, Okobo and Melton.