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Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:52 am
by carey
The Bobster wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:53 am
It's not like Bledsoe is the linchpin for their offense. We saw firsthand the other night who was.

It's like saying "I cant believe Jon Paxson/Derek Fisher/Avery Johnson was the starting point guard for a championship team."
Incorrect. It's like saying, "Wow, I can't believe they're leading the league in offense with Eric as PG because he's one of the worst decision makers I've ever seen with a basketball - especially in the 4th Quarter."

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:03 am
by The Bobster
carey wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:52 am
The Bobster wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:53 am
It's not like Bledsoe is the linchpin for their offense. We saw firsthand the other night who was.

It's like saying "I cant believe Jon Paxson/Derek Fisher/Avery Johnson was the starting point guard for a championship team."
Incorrect. It's like saying, "Wow, I can't believe they're leading the league in offense with Eric as PG because he's one of the worst decision makers I've ever seen with a basketball - especially in the 4th Quarter."
The difference is Milwaukee doesn't put him in the position of constantly making those decisions down the stretch like the Suns did.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:33 am
by O_Gardino
Prediction: Jamal Crawford will be our head coach sometime before the allstar break next season . Not this season - next season.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:10 pm
by Mori Chu
O_Gardino wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:33 am
Prediction: Jamal Crawford will be our head coach sometime before the allstar break next season . Not this season - next season.
I support it, but only if he checks himself in at the ends of games to take the game-winning shot.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:36 am
by The Bobster
I think it's becoming painfully obvious that Igor may not have what it takes to sit in the lead chair.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:40 am
by azsportsfan
I think he would make a great coach for a more experienced team. It is tough combination here. I think he is trying what he can but in the NBA once training camp ends that's about it for real practices and this team needs a couple more training camps at least.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:54 am
by In2ition
Give him some time, all year and next year. He's playing with a shorthanded deck right now. He needs a pg or luck into a situation where he finds and develops one. I hope that it's Melton at this point.

Melton was behind the eight ball. He didn't play last year. He played for a different organization in the summer and all the way up to right before training camp, so he didn't have all that time to learn what Igor was trying to do and it's different than what Mike D wanted him to do. Perhaps he's starting to figure it out, but more than that his instincts on defense are pretty good. Putting him with Bridges is a decent combo. Add in a big that works hard like Holmes and it helps too.

Bender wasn't great this summer or preseason in the stats that count, ppg, rpg, asts, turnovers. But, he was a positive when he was on the floor this summer, and was in the right place on defense. The box score might have looked like he sucked out loud, but they always seemed to play better with him on the floor. It might be good to play him more too. Once this team starts to really understand what Igor is trying to do on offense and get more comfortable with it, he will be able to add more to it.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:33 am
by SDC
i honestly believe even teodosic wld help this team tremendously.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:37 am
by SDC
so mcdo thought leaking that he wanted SGA all along wld help his PR battle. hes wrong.

ok hes a pg, but only mcdo thinks SGA would have helped this team.

sarver was right to overrule him on bridges vs SGA

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 pm
by Xylus
The Bobster wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:36 am
I think it's becoming painfully obvious that Igor may not have what it takes to sit in the lead chair.
Maybe, but firing him only makes our unstable organization that much more unstable. The Suns should have no illusions that they'll compete this year or probably even next, so Igor should be given time to develop his players and system. I'm not sure many coaches could polish this turd of a roster.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 pm
by Hermen
SDC wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:37 am
so mcdo thought leaking that he wanted SGA all along wld help his PR battle. hes wrong.

ok hes a pg, but only mcdo thinks SGA would have helped this team.

sarver was right to overrule him on bridges vs SGA
Not if it really only took the MIL pick to get SGA compared to the MIA pick for Bridges.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:55 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Xylus wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:36 am
I think it's becoming painfully obvious that Igor may not have what it takes to sit in the lead chair.
Maybe, but firing him only makes our unstable organization that much more unstable. The Suns should have no illusions that they'll compete this year or probably even next, so Igor should be given time to develop his players and system. I'm not sure many coaches could polish this turd of a roster.
Before firing him the FO needs to provide a completed roster. This is grade A tanking material (and not NBA worthy without Booker and Warren) and people were talking about making the playoffs in the west.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:35 pm
by Superbone
SDC wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:33 am
i honestly believe even teodosic wld help this team tremendously.
I agree with you but it would only be for the short term.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:43 pm
by JeremyG
Ring_Wanted wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:55 pm
Xylus wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:36 am
I think it's becoming painfully obvious that Igor may not have what it takes to sit in the lead chair.
Maybe, but firing him only makes our unstable organization that much more unstable. The Suns should have no illusions that they'll compete this year or probably even next, so Igor should be given time to develop his players and system. I'm not sure many coaches could polish this turd of a roster.
Before firing him the FO needs to provide a completed roster. This is grade A tanking material (and not NBA worthy without Booker and Warren) and people were talking about making the playoffs in the west.
What's frustrating is that it looks like .500 might get you close to the playoffs this year.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:41 pm
by SDC
Hermen wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:45 pm
SDC wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:37 am
so mcdo thought leaking that he wanted SGA all along wld help his PR battle. hes wrong.

ok hes a pg, but only mcdo thinks SGA would have helped this team.

sarver was right to overrule him on bridges vs SGA
Not if it really only took the MIL pick to get SGA compared to the MIA pick for Bridges.
the last thing the suns need is another young player/teenager. the suns just had ayton and bridges and have given up on four young players (len, payton, chriss, ulis) for virtually nothing.

if mcdo thinks leaking that he wanted SGA all along will help him look smart because he's a point guard, then the guy really doenst get it!

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:43 pm
by SDC
Superbone wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:35 pm
SDC wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:33 am
i honestly believe even teodosic wld help this team tremendously.
I agree with you but it would only be for the short term.
that's the point. unless you are resigned to tanking this season.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:44 pm
by MightyMoog
I don't get why the team doesn't invest in a good shooting coach and a good big man coach. You can only coach so much with the tools you have, but if your tools could do more, you can get more creative.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:58 am
by Shabazz
MightyMoog wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:44 pm
I don't get why the team doesn't invest in a good shooting coach and a good big man coach. You can only coach so much with the tools you have, but if your tools could do more, you can get more creative.
Sarver’s MO is not to spend on the front office or the coaching staff. What we really can’t “get” is what we did to deserve him.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:03 am
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:58 am
MightyMoog wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:44 pm
I don't get why the team doesn't invest in a good shooting coach and a good big man coach. You can only coach so much with the tools you have, but if your tools could do more, you can get more creative.
Sarver’s MO is not to spend on the front office or the coaching staff. What we really can’t “get” is what we did to deserve him.
Unfortunately, we don't get to choose our owner. Us fans are being abused but it's not our fault.

Re: Igor Kokoskov Progress Report

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:06 pm
by Mori Chu
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