Re: Suns Videos That Make Me Happy
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:41 pm
Thanks, OG. That makes me smile.
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Shawn is a top 5 suns player of all time. I hope guys like DA and Booker knock him out of that group, though, because that would mean they end up being great players here a long time.
We took it for granted under Colangelo.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:41 amI could watch that Marion video on loop all day. Back in the mid-2000s I knew our team was special, but I didn't realize how truly rare it was to have a team like that, and how long it would be before we had anything remotely like that again. I miss those days.
The top two moves Sarver didn’t make that cost us at least one championship:ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.
Don't knock Uncle Spliffy. He'd be a perfect PF in today's game.ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.
I'm pretty sure that #2 was the front office decision at the time, since they didn't think Iggy was going to fall to them. Of course, they kept their word on the trade prior to the draft and even after they saw that he was going to fall. Too bad the Warriors didn't do the same when they agreed to trade their pick(which was Steph Curry).Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:26 amThe top two moves Sarver didn’t make that cost us at least one championship:ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.
1. Not resigning Joe Johnson over a $5 mil difference.
2. Not drafting Igoudala and instead trading the pick.
You beat me to my edit -- it's amazing how many leader boards he was on, especially defensively. Imagine how good he'd look playing next to Ayton.ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:49 amNo I loved Cliff! One of my favorites of all time and he'd be in high demand today (no pun intended). But he was the best of that group and wasn't nearly enough against the frontlines of those WC powers. He was tasked with guarding all of those guys at one point or another because he was our best frontcourt defender.
Also, didn't we censor Longley on this site?
Listening to some of these nba redrafts Bill Simmons has been doing...whoever was scouting or making decisions in the late 90’s and early 2000’s was doing a great job. Nash went 15 in the 96 draft and then 2nd in the redraft to Kobe. Marion and Amare both went 9th in 99 and 2002, but both went 1st in the redrafts. I haven’t seen one for 2003 yet, but we got Barbosa at like 29...it really is too bad we traded the 04 pick, as Iggy at 7 would have been another great pick.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:41 amI could watch that Marion video on loop all day. Back in the mid-2000s I knew our team was special, but I didn't realize how truly rare it was to have a team like that, and how long it would be before we had anything remotely like that again. I miss those days.
Yeah, the Suns used to take advantage of bad organizations when it came to the draft, but now other organizations take advantage of our bad drafting. I think it was a team effort, and Cotton and Jerry had a good amount of voice in the room.Split T wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:32 amListening to some of these nba redrafts Bill Simmons has been doing...whoever was scouting or making decisions in the late 90’s and early 2000’s was doing a great job. Nash went 15 in the 96 draft and then 2nd in the redraft to Kobe. Marion and Amare both went 9th in 99 and 2002, but both went 1st in the redrafts. I haven’t seen one for 2003 yet, but we got Barbosa at like 29...it really is too bad we traded the 04 pick, as Iggy at 7 would have been another great pick.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:41 amI could watch that Marion video on loop all day. Back in the mid-2000s I knew our team was special, but I didn't realize how truly rare it was to have a team like that, and how long it would be before we had anything remotely like that again. I miss those days.
How good was the western conference when you can name so many HOF bigs that you forget the Mailman. So Many Great Bigs.ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.
Ha! Or Kevin Garnett.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:48 amHow good was the western conference when you can name so many HOF bigs that you forget the Mailman. So Many Great Bigs.ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.
Or Dirk.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:51 amHa! Or Kevin Garnett.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:48 amHow good was the western conference when you can name so many HOF bigs that you forget the Mailman. So Many Great Bigs.ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.
Young Gasol, Ming, Brand.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:52 amOr Dirk.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:51 amHa! Or Kevin Garnett.O_Gardino wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:48 amHow good was the western conference when you can name so many HOF bigs that you forget the Mailman. So Many Great Bigs.ShelC wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:57 amWe were pretty maxed out with those Kidd led late 90s teams. McDyess ditched us and we were left with Cliffy, Googs, Longley, Mark Bryant, etc to go up against the likes of Shaq, Sheed, Brian Grant, Vlade, CWeb, Duncan, Robinson. Plus Backcourt 2000 never materialized.
Colangelo at least left us a parting gift in Nash, Shawn, Amar'e and JJ (then traded for Diaw). Sarver really pissed away the last 10 years.