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Split T wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:09 am

Same…he clearly has an issue with how he’s viewed and while I don’t think how he responds helps, I do agree with him. He was an incredible basketball player and didn’t always get the credit he deserved. I still think it’s kinda funny he never once made an All- Defense team…Kobe made like 9 straight and Marion, a vastly superior defender, made zero his entire career.

All about the narrative and where you play.

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:28 am

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:08 pm

Marion is on the All “I wasn’t appreciated Enough” First Team with Scottie Pippen.

And both are right.

To an extent. But Pippen was not better than Jordan as he claimed recently.

And Marion was hurt by playing in a golden era of power forwards (KG, Webber, Dirk, etc). He was great, but more of an all time great role player than a superstar himself.

I love that it pisses him off that he was never able to win us a ring.

The individual accolades are cool and tbh significant, especially All NBA stuff gets dude his bonuses but man winning is just all we need to do for the real validation

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 am

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:28 am

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:08 pm

Marion is on the All “I wasn’t appreciated Enough” First Team with Scottie Pippen.

And both are right.

To an extent. But Pippen was not better than Jordan as he claimed recently.

And Marion was hurt by playing in a golden era of power forwards (KG, Webber, Dirk, etc). He was great, but more of an all time great role player than a superstar himself.

Yeah nobody thinks Pippen was better than Jordan. He might have been a better teammate (probably not debatable) but that is about it.

Interesting that you list Webber in that list of great power forwards. He does have some better averages than Marion, but I would absolutely take Shawn Marion's career over his. More points, rebounds, steals, blocks. And a ring.

Sure wish Dario could have been part of this season.

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:24 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 am

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:28 am

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:08 pm

Marion is on the All “I wasn’t appreciated Enough” First Team with Scottie Pippen.

And both are right.

To an extent. But Pippen was not better than Jordan as he claimed recently.

And Marion was hurt by playing in a golden era of power forwards (KG, Webber, Dirk, etc). He was great, but more of an all time great role player than a superstar himself.

Yeah nobody thinks Pippen was better than Jordan. He might have been a better teammate (probably not debatable) but that is about it.

Interesting that you list Webber in that list of great power forwards. He does have some better averages than Marion, but I would absolutely take Shawn Marion's career over his. More points, rebounds, steals, blocks. And a ring.

At their peaks, Webber was a better player. He was the “Nash” of those great Kings teams, while Marion was more of the “Peja/Vlade/Bibby.” Injuries did Webber in but he was basically as talented as any of those PFs in his era. And Webber might have a ring (as the best player on a team) if not for the atrocities committed against the Kings by the referees in 2002 against the Lakers.

I think the thing with Pippen is that he never considered a star until the Bulls started winning championships. He was a late bloomer and might have had an inferiority complex because of that. Then you put him alongside probably the greatest player in history, and certainly the biggest star, and that probably exacerbated it. Pippen was probably the perfect 2nd banana - a great defender who had a strong all-around game, and he played well during Jordan's first retirement, but his ego always needed stroking. The difference between him and Jordan was that Jordan fed his ego by winning and dominating, Pippen needed to be told he was great.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:41 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:24 pm

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:41 am

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:28 am

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:08 pm

Marion is on the All “I wasn’t appreciated Enough” First Team with Scottie Pippen.

And both are right.

To an extent. But Pippen was not better than Jordan as he claimed recently.

And Marion was hurt by playing in a golden era of power forwards (KG, Webber, Dirk, etc). He was great, but more of an all time great role player than a superstar himself.

Yeah nobody thinks Pippen was better than Jordan. He might have been a better teammate (probably not debatable) but that is about it.

Interesting that you list Webber in that list of great power forwards. He does have some better averages than Marion, but I would absolutely take Shawn Marion's career over his. More points, rebounds, steals, blocks. And a ring.

At their peaks, Webber was a better player. He was the “Nash” of those great Kings teams, while Marion was more of the “Peja/Vlade/Bibby.” Injuries did Webber in but he was basically as talented as any of those PFs in his era. And Webber might have a ring (as the best player on a team) if not for the atrocities committed against the Kings by the referees in 2002 against the Lakers.

Agreed about the peak.

Dame sure does shout out Book n Mikal alot
Respect

bajanguy008 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:51 pm

Dame sure does shout out Book n Mikal alot
Respect

He knows a #sicko when he sees him.

Crazy to me he’s still getting this high on these lists…Only LeBron, Kobe, and KD got to 11,000 younger



Saw it written somewhere, but he was behind TMac, Melo, and Giannis at getting to 10,000, so he’s gaining steam.

Split T wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:53 pm

Crazy to me he’s still getting this high on these lists…Only LeBron, Kobe, and KD got to 11,000 younger



Saw it written somewhere, but he was behind TMac, Melo, and Giannis at getting to 10,000, so he’s gaining steam.

And only KD had to play in a year of college like Book.

Obviously too early to tell, but there’s a world where Booker is a top 10 scorer all time. He’s headed for 25K+ with a shot at 30K

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:23 am

Obviously too early to tell, but there’s a world where Booker is a top 10 scorer all time. He’s headed for 25K+ with a shot at 30K

His game will age well. So if he stays healthy, yeah.

Indy wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:29 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:23 am

Obviously too early to tell, but there’s a world where Booker is a top 10 scorer all time. He’s headed for 25K+ with a shot at 30K

His game will age well. So if he stays healthy, yeah.

He's definitely going into the top 100 of all time in the next 25 years.

Indy wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:29 am

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 24, 2022 9:23 am

Obviously too early to tell, but there’s a world where Booker is a top 10 scorer all time. He’s headed for 25K+ with a shot at 30K

His game will age well. So if he stays healthy, yeah.

Let's make sure he scores every single one of those points in a Phoenix Suns uniform. Do it all for one team, just like his idol, Kobe.

As we're already on Book
This is such an accurate tweet, we have talked about this over n over but yes the talking heads so felt this to be the defining moment of yung fella's career



And eversince the empty stats not a winning player statements, they've been still doubling down trying to stick with the narrative and sound more n more silly
It's such a weird thing