Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:46 am
Don't see how a guy who dreams of having the best franchise in the NBA would want to hire that doofus.
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Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 12:55 pm
After years of having a guy that tried to win, but only if he could make money, it's nice to have a guy that just wants to win...period.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:39 pm
Apparently he doesn't see it like the rest of the world. Thomas is his buddy. Ish is too close to him.TOO wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:46 amDon't see how a guy who dreams of having the best franchise in the NBA would want to hire that doofus.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:21 pm
I don't mind the competitiveness or the language. I worry about him being a headstrong new owner thinking he can throw his money around to buy a title - because it doesn't work like that. I worry about him not knowing what he doesn't know and being taken advantage of by manipulative opportunists looking to run a basketball team.Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:20 amTotally agree. This is apples and oranges compared to Sarver. Ishbia is a super competitive guy. We are lucky to have him. I mean, I'm sure he's not a perfect angel. Here who is? He's a ruthless business man. That's how you get to the top.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:19 amIf his jackassness is pointed in a productive direction to the Suns winning a title(s), then I could care less. Unless he is blatantly doing things like sexual harrassment, making racist remarks, or treating people in the organization unfairly which negatively affects the Suns, then I'm going to dismiss it for the most part. If he's dropping F bombs when he wins a title, or has them directed at our rivals, good. Competitiveness shouldn't be underrated.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:55 pm
Isiah did draft well
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:13 pm
Average at best. Stoudamire and Camby were no brainer high picks for the Raps. He drafted Ariza and traded him for Steve Francis to put in the backcourt with Marbury. His scouts told him to draft David Lee but he tried to draft Chris Taft at the last minute, drafted Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins. His roster composition in NY was horrible, bad trades and worse FA contracts that took Donnie Walsh 2 years to clean up once he got there. He stacked the Knicks FO with friends and former teammates with no structure in the scouting/personnel department. Donnie had to ban him from the training facility and make him a West Coast scout to try and keep him away from the team because Dolan wouldn't let Donnie fire him outright.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:33 pm
Hmm, thought it was better, but guess most of it was in Toronto. He also drafted Tracy McGrady
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:33 pm
Sounds like good fun was had by all.ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:13 pmAverage at best. Stoudamire and Camby were no brainer high picks for the Raps. He drafted Ariza and traded him for Steve Francis to put in the backcourt with Marbury. His scouts told him to draft David Lee but he tried to draft Chris Taft at the last minute, drafted Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins. His roster composition in NY was horrible, bad trades and worse FA contracts that took Donnie Walsh 2 years to clean up once he got there. He stacked the Knicks FO with friends and former teammates with no structure in the scouting/personnel department. Donnie had to ban him from the training facility and make him a West Coast scout to try and keep him away from the team because Dolan wouldn't let Donnie fire him outright.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:35 pm
I agree that's a concern. Sarver thought he knew what needed to be done too. The quick Durant trade with no concern about the overpay and gutting our championship team is on Mat. Not looking particularly good right now.ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:21 pmI don't mind the competitiveness or the language. I worry about him being a headstrong new owner thinking he can throw his money around to buy a title - because it doesn't work like that. I worry about him not knowing what he doesn't know and being taken advantage of by manipulative opportunists looking to run a basketball team.Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:20 amTotally agree. This is apples and oranges compared to Sarver. Ishbia is a super competitive guy. We are lucky to have him. I mean, I'm sure he's not a perfect angel. Here who is? He's a ruthless business man. That's how you get to the top.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:19 amIf his jackassness is pointed in a productive direction to the Suns winning a title(s), then I could care less. Unless he is blatantly doing things like sexual harrassment, making racist remarks, or treating people in the organization unfairly which negatively affects the Suns, then I'm going to dismiss it for the most part. If he's dropping F bombs when he wins a title, or has them directed at our rivals, good. Competitiveness shouldn't be underrated.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:52 pm
I didn't like the gutting of the team, but really had a lot to do with CP3 getting old, imo. I'm going to sound like a broken record, but if Jones just drafted Haliburton instead of Smith, it wouldn't have deteriorated this quickly, again imo.Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:35 pmI agree that's a concern. Sarver thought he knew what needed to be done too. The quick Durant trade with no concern about the overpay and gutting our championship team is on Mat. Not looking particularly good right now.ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:21 pmI don't mind the competitiveness or the language. I worry about him being a headstrong new owner thinking he can throw his money around to buy a title - because it doesn't work like that. I worry about him not knowing what he doesn't know and being taken advantage of by manipulative opportunists looking to run a basketball team.Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:20 amTotally agree. This is apples and oranges compared to Sarver. Ishbia is a super competitive guy. We are lucky to have him. I mean, I'm sure he's not a perfect angel. Here who is? He's a ruthless business man. That's how you get to the top.In2ition wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:19 amIf his jackassness is pointed in a productive direction to the Suns winning a title(s), then I could care less. Unless he is blatantly doing things like sexual harrassment, making racist remarks, or treating people in the organization unfairly which negatively affects the Suns, then I'm going to dismiss it for the most part. If he's dropping F bombs when he wins a title, or has them directed at our rivals, good. Competitiveness shouldn't be underrated.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:26 pm
That's still only like half of it.Superbone wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:33 pmSounds like good fun was had by all.ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:13 pmAverage at best. Stoudamire and Camby were no brainer high picks for the Raps. He drafted Ariza and traded him for Steve Francis to put in the backcourt with Marbury. His scouts told him to draft David Lee but he tried to draft Chris Taft at the last minute, drafted Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins. His roster composition in NY was horrible, bad trades and worse FA contracts that took Donnie Walsh 2 years to clean up once he got there. He stacked the Knicks FO with friends and former teammates with no structure in the scouting/personnel department. Donnie had to ban him from the training facility and make him a West Coast scout to try and keep him away from the team because Dolan wouldn't let Donnie fire him outright.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:06 am
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:01 am
They can have the brilliant architect of our offense, Kevin Young, if they want him.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:29 am
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
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Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:35 am
Durant will likely become the 5th player in franchise history to score 2000 points in a season…I checked to see if there was a chance he could set the single season suns record, but he’ll fall short of at least 1 guy. Can you name the 4 other guys to score 2000? One did it twice.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:41 am
Off the top of my head, possible names that come to mind: Barkley, Westphal, Davis, Book, Amare.Split T wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:35 amDurant will likely become the 5th player in franchise history to score 2000 points in a season…I checked to see if there was a chance he could set the single season suns record, but he’ll fall short of at least 1 guy. Can you name the 4 other guys to score 2000? One did it twice.
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Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:24 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:41 amOff the top of my head, possible names that come to mind: Barkley, Westphal, Davis, Book, Amare.Split T wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:35 amDurant will likely become the 5th player in franchise history to score 2000 points in a season…I checked to see if there was a chance he could set the single season suns record, but he’ll fall short of at least 1 guy. Can you name the 4 other guys to score 2000? One did it twice.
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Ya I was curious if Book had done it, but he hasn’t played enough games when he’s been at his best scoring wise. Didn’t help that he lost 10 games in back to back seasons with the pandemic.
For those wondering, the 4 to do it are Chambers(record holder at 2201 and only one to do it twice), Amare, Charlie Scott, and Paul Westphal.
At his current scoring rate and if he plays all 6 remaining games, KD will finish at 2064 which puts him 4th all time behind both Chambers seasons and Amare in 04-05. If KD can average 31.2 over the final 6 he can snag 2nd place all time at 2086. He’d need to average 50.3 to catch Chambers.
Re: Suns News: Week 24 (4/1 - 4/7)
Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:26 pm
Book would’ve made it in 2019-2020 if he had those 10 extra games. He was on pace for over 2100