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Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:32 am
by Shabazz
I still don't understand, but whatever.
Hayward was planning a free agent visit here after his visit to Charlotte. Charlotte (unlike Cleveland before them) offered him a max contract so he accepted it and cancelled his visit to Phoenix. That's all Rick Bonnell was reporting.
Was he not supposed to report that or was Hayward supposed to still come to Phoenix despite committing to Charlotte?
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:37 am
by In2ition
Just speculating here, but maybe Hayward went to Charlotte, found he would really fit in well with the rest of the team there. They offered him the max, which Utah can still match, you can't get better money anywhere. So, Charlotte tells him that if he goes to Phoenix, the offer is off the table. Why wouldn't he do it?
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:46 am
by Flagrant Fowl
In2ition wrote:Just speculating here, but maybe Hayward went to Charlotte, found he would really fit in well with the rest of the team there. They offered him the max, which Utah can still match, you can't get better money anywhere. So, Charlotte tells him that if he goes to Phoenix, the offer is off the table. Why wouldn't he do it?
This is more than likely what happened. Also, if Utah is going to match, does it really matter which team he signs an offer sheet with?
No reason for Suns fans to feel slighted over this.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:22 am
by Ring_Wanted
Ha! The gift of hindsight.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:31 am
by Wally_West
So on to Chandler Parsons then?
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:43 am
by TOO
Wally_West wrote:So on to Chandler Parsons then?
Doubt it.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:45 am
by SwingMan
Wally_West wrote:So on to Chandler Parsons then?
Maybe - definitely need another 4 incase Brown proves not ready, although Frye's timid play said the same through most of his stint here.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:57 am
by TOO
If we sign Parsons to be a 4, we're definitely doing it wrong.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:14 pm
by carey
I think Parsons could log minutes as a stretch 4 he just can't defend legitimate PFs for shit.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:26 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:SDC wrote:Gladiator wrote:Ring_Wanted wrote:Oh, and please just don't go after Deng. Pau still makes sense for this roster but spending on those two means not more cap space and it's far from a given that they can live up to the length of their contracts, unless it is two years.
SF and a (two way) big man are our most glaring weaknesses but Deng-Pau won't elevate the team more than to make us a lock for the playoffs, at best. I want to make that progress but this just doesn't feel like a sustainable way to achieve it. If that's the best they can fo in free agency I'd explore trading for players under contract on capped out/rebuilding teams. And if they absolutely must use the cap space on a FA, just overpay for a younger RFA who at least have the best years of his career ahead of him.
I don't think Deng or Gasol are good fits on this roster at this time, especially for what they'll be asking ($s and length of contract)
gasol would have been a good fit, assuming the suns kept everybody together. now that frye's gone, a key player in the suns surprise run last season, pau doesnt make sense anymore. idiot mcdo is too slow to sign pau to a one year deal. it might have convinced frye to stay with the suns if the suns were trying to get better.
Seriously? You are calling McDonough an idiot?
I may be the only one here that feels this way, but your hate for McDonough is just silly and unfounded. You are only just guessing that the Lakers only wanted the Pacers pick for Pau, yet you love him like he was... your lover. You haven't come up with a single plan that I remember that was better, even with the gift of hindsight, than what McDonough has done.
Are you kidding me?! I think most of us feel that way.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:31 pm
by Shabazz
#mcdout
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:34 pm
by Wally_West
Superbone wrote:In2ition wrote:SDC wrote:Gladiator wrote:Ring_Wanted wrote:Oh, and please just don't go after Deng. Pau still makes sense for this roster but spending on those two means not more cap space and it's far from a given that they can live up to the length of their contracts, unless it is two years.
SF and a (two way) big man are our most glaring weaknesses but Deng-Pau won't elevate the team more than to make us a lock for the playoffs, at best. I want to make that progress but this just doesn't feel like a sustainable way to achieve it. If that's the best they can fo in free agency I'd explore trading for players under contract on capped out/rebuilding teams. And if they absolutely must use the cap space on a FA, just overpay for a younger RFA who at least have the best years of his career ahead of him.
I don't think Deng or Gasol are good fits on this roster at this time, especially for what they'll be asking ($s and length of contract)
gasol would have been a good fit, assuming the suns kept everybody together. now that frye's gone, a key player in the suns surprise run last season, pau doesnt make sense anymore. idiot mcdo is too slow to sign pau to a one year deal. it might have convinced frye to stay with the suns if the suns were trying to get better.
Seriously? You are calling McDonough an idiot?
I may be the only one here that feels this way, but your hate for McDonough is just silly and unfounded. You are only just guessing that the Lakers only wanted the Pacers pick for Pau, yet you love him like he was... your lover. You haven't come up with a single plan that I remember that was better, even with the gift of hindsight, than what McDonough has done.
Are you kidding me?! I think most of us feel that way.
Sorry but LANCE BLANKS> McDoubt everyday of the week!
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:42 pm
by carey
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:29 pm
by SwingMan
But I'm a lone nut - that means P.J. Tucker needs gone in a bad way.....
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:49 pm
by carey
SwingMan wrote:
But I'm a lone nut - that means P.J. Tucker needs gone in a bad way.....
Gonna get some mileage out of that one, huh? :p
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:19 pm
by SwingMan
carey wrote:SwingMan wrote:
But I'm a lone nut - that means P.J. Tucker needs gone in a bad way.....
Gonna get some mileage out of that one, huh? :p
Why not? It's already down there - might as well not let it turn into roadkill.
What's your take on Tucker, anyways?
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:43 pm
by In2ition
Superbone wrote:In2ition wrote:SDC wrote:Gladiator wrote:Ring_Wanted wrote:Oh, and please just don't go after Deng. Pau still makes sense for this roster but spending on those two means not more cap space and it's far from a given that they can live up to the length of their contracts, unless it is two years.
SF and a (two way) big man are our most glaring weaknesses but Deng-Pau won't elevate the team more than to make us a lock for the playoffs, at best. I want to make that progress but this just doesn't feel like a sustainable way to achieve it. If that's the best they can fo in free agency I'd explore trading for players under contract on capped out/rebuilding teams. And if they absolutely must use the cap space on a FA, just overpay for a younger RFA who at least have the best years of his career ahead of him.
I don't think Deng or Gasol are good fits on this roster at this time, especially for what they'll be asking ($s and length of contract)
gasol would have been a good fit, assuming the suns kept everybody together. now that frye's gone, a key player in the suns surprise run last season, pau doesnt make sense anymore. idiot mcdo is too slow to sign pau to a one year deal. it might have convinced frye to stay with the suns if the suns were trying to get better.
Seriously? You are calling McDonough an idiot?
I may be the only one here that feels this way, but your hate for McDonough is just silly and unfounded. You are only just guessing that the Lakers only wanted the Pacers pick for Pau, yet you love him like he was... your lover. You haven't come up with a single plan that I remember that was better, even with the gift of hindsight, than what McDonough has done.
Are you kidding me?! I think most of us feel that way.
Haha, I didn't want to speak for everyone.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:54 pm
by Superbone
Tucker is the guts of our team. I want him back.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:57 pm
by In2ition
With Frye gone, I think that's a really good idea. He might not be the most talented player at his position, but he offers so much more than just production on the court and he keeps working on his game and offers a toughness and grit that's contagious all the way down the line in the roster.
Re: SUNS 2014: Free Agency
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:05 pm
by iLLmatic
I think we should resign Tucker, match Bledsoe, and offer Monroe a contract. I think if we frame the contract right the Pistons will let him go, that'd be too much money tied up on their frontcourt.