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Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:00 am
by O_Gardino
ShelC wrote:Why would the pelicans take jackson when they have Holiday and Rondo? Not that Rondo is a long term fit or even healthy, but do they see Holiday as a 2? Not sure those pieces fit.
Makes no sense. Bled would be better for them, since he can play the 2. But what they really need is a legit catch and shoot guy.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:02 am
by O_Gardino
Aztec Sunsfan wrote:
Moreso, I’ll throw my hat into the ring and ask what would you think about a trade with Bledsoe-Faried-Valanciunas at the core of it?
We create a logjam at C, but JV should be enough to sit Chandler or to look for a trade milking this Len’s renaissance. A 2nd for a rental? After all, he is not staying.
Has been written that Toronto could trade JV out of cap concerns, and this would shed one year of future salary, with a very competitive frontcourt rotation in Ibaka, Faried and Nogueira.
Denver gets a real PG and eliminate Faried’s salary, so another asset could come out from them. What and where to?
I think Valanciunas has plateaued and won't get much better. He's the kind of dude who looks better playing on the other team.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:22 am
by Split T
O_Gardino wrote:ShelC wrote:Why would the pelicans take jackson when they have Holiday and Rondo? Not that Rondo is a long term fit or even healthy, but do they see Holiday as a 2? Not sure those pieces fit.
Makes no sense. Bled would be better for them, since he can play the 2. But what they really need is a legit catch and shoot guy.
I think Jrue would be their 2, but I agree on that Jackson doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:49 am
by Shabazz
carey wrote:Flagrant Fowl wrote:Split T wrote:Is Asik hurt? I just assumed he wasn't good enough to play.
He's been diagnosed with Crohn's disease. Not certain if he'll ever be able to play again.
My mom has it. It's an awful disease, but... there's a guy on the Saints that has it. He plays professional football with most of his intestine removed. I don't see how you can't play basketball with it. It probably depends on the severity though. Not all cases are the same.
Larry Nance Jr has it.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:39 pm
by specialsauce
If he had to have surgery and has a colostomy, I don’t see how he could play without making a mess. Team may be keeping it private
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:44 pm
by JCSunsfan
specialsauce wrote:If he had to have surgery and has a colostomy, I don’t see how he could play without making a mess. Team may be keeping it private
Don't see how you can play pro ball with a colostomy, unless its only a temporary one. But even then, the future is really in doubt.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:17 pm
by Split T
specialsauce wrote:If he had to have surgery and has a colostomy, I don’t see how he could play without making a mess. Team may be keeping it private
I think it's pretty unlikely he has an ostomy of any kind. He's a pretty new diagnosis of Crohn's, that's usually a later step. But I guess it's possible.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:45 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:specialsauce wrote:If he had to have surgery and has a colostomy, I don’t see how he could play without making a mess. Team may be keeping it private
I think it's pretty unlikely he has an ostomy of any kind. He's a pretty new diagnosis of Crohn's, that's usually a later step. But I guess it's possible.
I can't see any other reason why he wouldn't be able to play with the diagnosis.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:58 pm
by Split T
Agreed, it shouldn't be career ending.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:44 pm
by 1tinsoldier
this is the first game i've seen (now that i've got slingtv) and things look promising if we can get value back for Bledsoe
there is supposed to be plenty of good point guards in the league. let's get one we can grow with even if we have to give up a good draft pick
what about Bled and a pick for De’Aaron Fox? his stats look just ok in Sacramento but he could develop nicely with this team
but i don't know enough about Sac or what their "time table" is
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:46 am
by Mori Chu
1tinsoldier wrote:what about Bled and a pick for De’Aaron Fox? his stats look just ok in Sacramento but he could develop nicely with this team
I like Fox but that's a lot to give up just to get a rook PG who hasn't done much in this league. Bledsoe is worth more than that IMO.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:31 am
by ShelC
You guys are nuts. Kings wouldn't even entertain that deal for Fox. We had our shot; should've taken him. Not a knock on JJ, but we should've taken Fox and dumped Bledsoe.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:34 am
by TOO
ShelC wrote:You guys are nuts. Kings wouldn't even entertain that deal for Fox. We had our shot; should've taken him. Not a knock on JJ, but we should've taken Fox and dumped Bledsoe.
We should've let JJ meet with Boston so we could've gotten Tatum instead. Sigh..
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:23 am
by Mori Chu
How would you guys rank the top 4-5 rookies this season so far? I mean actual rookies, so no Ben Simmons or Joel Embiid or crud like that.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:33 am
by ShelC
I'd go Tatum, Markkanen, Kuzma, DSJ, Fox, Lonzo, Donovan, Jackson, Ntilikina,
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:35 am
by TOO
Why wouldn't Simmons be considered an actual rookie?
Anyway, I think the top 4-5 outside of Simmons have been Tatum, Kuzma, Mitchell, and Collins. Ball had that one amazing game against the Bledsoes, but has been pretty meh otherwise. Jackson has flashed as well. Feel bad for Fultz.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:16 pm
by JCSunsfan
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:ShelC wrote:You guys are nuts. Kings wouldn't even entertain that deal for Fox. We had our shot; should've taken him. Not a knock on JJ, but we should've taken Fox and dumped Bledsoe.
We should've let JJ meet with Boston so we could've gotten Tatum instead. Sigh..
Way too early. I still think JJ will end up better than Tatum.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:18 pm
by ShelC
Simmons is considered a rookie by NBA rules and he's by far the best one.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:25 pm
by Superbone
Simmons is head and shoulders above everybody else but I think Mori was interested in who was thought to be the best out of the 2017 draft class so far.
Re: Bledsoe wants out!
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:03 pm
by 1tinsoldier
i'm concerned that what we get for Bled is someone who doesn't work into our future plans anyway
if we need a young point with potential, and that's who we'd pick next year, why not get it over with now and put Bled's value to work toward's that goal -- either in a trade for someone like Fox now or for a good pick (that we might package with our pick next year for a top pick)
it would hurt our youngins to not play with a starting caliber point this year, so i'd opt for option 1