2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

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DA is a true center tho for whatever that's worth.

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ShelC wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:57 am
Here’s a big clue why Ayton is still on the team lol

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I’d consider trading Ayton into cap space. If Houston offered me KMJ and a 2nd, I might take it. Would let us use the MLE. Offer that to Brook Lopez…and you might have the BAE to get another FA. You’d also create a massive TPE that you could use instead

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Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:17 am
I’d consider trading Ayton into cap space. If Houston offered me KMJ and a 2nd, I might take it. Would let us use the MLE. Offer that to Brook Lopez…and you might have the BAE to get another FA. You’d also create a massive TPE that you could use instead
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Wally_West wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:14 am
ShelC wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:57 am
Here’s a big clue why Ayton is still on the team lol
Bingo.

Ain't got shit to do with Vogel and Jones "loving" him, nobody wants him at his price.

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I think Ayton has more value than Collins, though it may not be much more.
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ShelC wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:05 am
DA is a true center tho for whatever that's worth.
Who'd prefer to play PF.
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You guys are crazy. That trade isn’t even an indication of Collins’ value. The Hawks didn’t want to take back salary; they wanted to get under the luxury tax.
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Still a crazy trade… if they moved him before signing that contract he would’ve netted multiple firsts. Collins’ career trajectory feels slightly Joe Smith-ie in terms of his on court production.

Also smart move by the Jazz. Slightly surprised the Thunder didn’t get in on this. They could use a bit of bulk up front.

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Jazz are hoping Collins has a Markkanen like resurgence to his career.

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Yes naturally. That’s why it feels like a Thunder move where they take someone for cheap, rehabilitate his value and resell for dollars on the penny. Like CP3.

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I wonder if OKC has bigger plans for their cap space. I could see this being the year they strike

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I think they are clearly not tanking, but this has to be a developmental year, no? Still so much raw talent on that roster and they still have to see what Chet becomes.

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I think they have 1 obvious whole which is a reliable big.

Cason Wallace, SGA, Jalen Williams, Josh Giddey, Chet Holmgren.

That’s a great core, but it’s awfully small. I still really think they make a lot of sense as a KAT team. Give Minny Dort, some lesser prospects, and picks for KAT.

SGA/Giddey/Williams/Chet/KAT with Wallace off the bench. That’s solid.

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JeremyG wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 1:26 pm
You guys are crazy. That trade isn’t even an indication of Collins’ value. The Hawks didn’t want to take back salary; they wanted to get under the luxury tax.
Uh huh, explain why they couldn’t get a first round pick even.

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This is Danny Ainge we're talking about. :lol:

Seriously, though, I don't know if anyone would have given up a first, but I think he could have netted something more if they wanted to take back more salary.
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The most overpaid players in the NBA in 2022-23

https://hoopshype.com/lists/most-overpa ... k-simmons/

Only one Suns player made the list. ;)
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Split T wrote:
Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:12 pm
I think they have 1 obvious whole which is a reliable big.

Cason Wallace, SGA, Jalen Williams, Josh Giddey, Chet Holmgren.

That’s a great core, but it’s awfully small. I still really think they make a lot of sense as a KAT team. Give Minny Dort, some lesser prospects, and picks for KAT.

SGA/Giddey/Williams/Chet/KAT with Wallace off the bench. That’s solid.
Sorry but I would never touch KAT with what I see as a very solid if not tremendous team chemistry contributing strongly to winning ahead of schedule.

Also KAT doesn’t play any bigger than Collins. He’s clearly on a different stratosphere as a shooter but he doesn’t do any traditional big man things.

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I think Chet can do a lot of the big man things. Chet is skinny, but he’s a good defender, shot blocker, and rebounder. I think it’s a similar idea to pairing KAT with Rudy but Chet has some ability on offense too.

And in my example they aren’t even giving up any of their top 5 guys to get him. I just think at some point they need to throw their chips in and go for it.

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I agree. I think Chet has some similarities to Wemby, in that he needs a bulkier center that can take the daily physicality while his body fills out. In fact I’d say the urgency there is a but greater because he’s already lost his full rookie season. I guess I don’t see KAT filling that role on defense. On offense I think they would be able to coexist quite well.

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