2019 NBA Draft Thread

[Split T]

If we’re talking a Zion trade, I’d need AD and Jrue for Zion/Warren/Tyler Johnson

[In2ition]

If we’re talking a Zion trade, I’d need AD and Jrue for Zion/Warren/Tyler Johnson

Hmm, a Jrue, Booker, Oubre, AD, Ayton starting lineup sounds kind of decent with Melton, Bridges, JJ and Holmes off the bench.

[specialsauce]

Ayton, Warren, Mil Pick for AD

Booker/Zion/AD

Agree. That’s my max offer. No way
I’m giving them Zion AND Ayton.

I’d throw in Jackson, Melton and our unprotected 2020 for Jrue if they’d take it

[specialsauce]

Jrue
Booker
Oubre
Zion
AD

There’s approximately 0% chance of that happening, but hey why not.

[In2ition]

Jrue
Booker
Oubre
Zion
AD

There’s approximately 0% chance of that happening, but hey why not.

Haha, no doubt, but dreaming is free. I would just be guessing, but I think they could possibly improve their team defense rating with that lineup and Bridges and Holmes off the bench. You could overcome Booker's defense and Zion's poor outside shot on offense.

[Indy]

Jrue
Booker
Oubre
Zion
AD

There’s approximately 0% chance of that happening, but hey why not.

Haha, no doubt, but dreaming is free. I would just be guessing, but I think they could possibly improve their team defense rating with that lineup and Bridges and Holmes off the bench. You could overcome Booker's defense and Zion's poor outside shot on offense.

I am not worried about his shot at all. I don't expect him to be KAT, but he should be as good of an outside shot as AD or Embiid or maybe even Blake. None of those guys shot over 30% in college... although all those guys combined didn't take 50 3PAs, and Zion got up 71. Wow.

[Indy]

I think I will be extremely happy with either Zion or Morant... which means we will get #5 or #6 and Sarver will trade it away in some move to "pry" Rozier away from Boston and say how we needed win-now guys instead of a rookie. Ugh.

[Flagrant Fowl]

I think I will be extremely happy with either Zion or Morant... which means we will get #5 or #6 and Sarver will trade it away in some move to "pry" Rozier away from Boston and say how we needed win-now guys instead of a rookie. Ugh.

I can't really argue trading a mid lottery pick for a more established starter who fits a roster need right now. But yeah, Rozier would be a miserable waste of that draft asset.

[Indy]

I think I will be extremely happy with either Zion or Morant... which means we will get #5 or #6 and Sarver will trade it away in some move to "pry" Rozier away from Boston and say how we needed win-now guys instead of a rookie. Ugh.

I can't really argue trading a mid lottery pick for a more established starter who fits a roster need right now. But yeah, Rozier would be a miserable waste of that draft asset.

For sure. But you know it will be something like Rozier or Beverly. If we are giving up assets for someone gettable, I think Dinwiddie or Brogdon in a sign & trade if we can't afford him after signing a PF.

[In2ition]

I think I will be extremely happy with either Zion or Morant... which means we will get #5 or #6 and Sarver will trade it away in some move to "pry" Rozier away from Boston and say how we needed win-now guys instead of a rookie. Ugh.

I can't really argue trading a mid lottery pick for a more established starter who fits a roster need right now. But yeah, Rozier would be a miserable waste of that draft asset.

For sure. But you know it will be something like Rozier or Beverly. If we are giving up assets for someone gettable, I think Dinwiddie or Brogdon in a sign & trade if we can't afford him after signing a PF.

Ugh, you just gave me some serious indigestion with that.

[Superbone]

Jrue
Booker
Oubre
Zion
AD

There’s approximately 0% chance of that happening, but hey why not.

Haha, no doubt, but dreaming is free. I would just be guessing, but I think they could possibly improve their team defense rating with that lineup and Bridges and Holmes off the bench. You could overcome Booker's defense and Zion's poor outside shot on offense.

I am not worried about his shot at all. I don't expect him to be KAT, but he should be as good of an outside shot as AD or Embiid or maybe even Blake. None of those guys shot over 30% in college... although all those guys combined didn't take 50 3PAs, and Zion got up 71. Wow.

Zion’s 3 is better than his FT.

[In2ition]

I don't have a lot of hope that the Suns are going to win the lottery again. Zion would be amazing, but it's possible a different path would be better for the Suns. It probably is mute since the ideal path(Zion) will not even be possible. I do really like Ja, and I think he would be a great back-court mate with Devin.

I've become a little obsessed with the idea of getting Clarke though. Even if they get Ja, I think they need to figure out how to also get Clarke. Clarke is going to be a fantastic guy next to Ayton, doing almost everything that Zion does, but has a better shot. He's extremely underrated right now because he's older than many of the guys on the team right now. He may be a better defender than Zion, but doesn't have the upside. He would fit a Shawn Marion type roll, where he could be the 4th or 5th option on a team like Bridges and still contribute in a ton of ways towards winning. Rebounds, shot blocks, steals, good passer, finisher, good teammate, holds everyone to well below their averages and hides and makes up for other's mistakes. He can also guard 1-5, but he doesn't have the girth that Zion does. He's also an incredible athlete, but not the Instagram sensation that Zion is. After he's restructured his shot, he's become better and better. Now his form is where I think he can be a decent 3 pt shooter too.

[O_Gardino]

Would you trade Zion, Ayton, Warren, Johnson and Mil pick for the Pels #8(Brandon Clarke), AD and Jrue?

That's the question of the offseason. I would do it, becasue that's 3 good players for 1 (imo). But...

I don't think that trade could work just for professional pride reasons. A team can't give up 2 consecutive #1 picks without getting destroyed by the media, and the Pels cant trade AD to the team with the #1 pick for anything less than it. So, if we land #1, we have to trade it and keep Ayton, or just keep building and don't go after AD.

If we fall lower than #1, I'd offer Ayton, Warren, Jackson, and a pick swap for AD, and see where the discussion goes. If I get that deal, I clear as much cap space as I can and recruit Kyrie/Durant like crazy.

[Cap]

A team can't give up 2 consecutive #1 picks without getting destroyed by the media

How about Bennett and Wiggins for Love?

[O_Gardino]

I think I will be extremely happy with either Zion or Morant... which means we will get #5 or #6 and Sarver will trade it away in some move to "pry" Rozier away from Boston and say how we needed win-now guys instead of a rookie. Ugh.

This is by far the most likely outcome. Not statistically, but we know how it goes.

[carey]

A team can't give up 2 consecutive #1 picks without getting destroyed by the media

How about Bennett and Wiggins for Love?

Bennett was already a bust. Ayton is no bust.

[carey]

This is by far the most likely outcome. Not statistically, but we know how it goes.

On tankathon we drop to 5 or 6 half the time I play it. Seems to me it is statistically probable that's what happens.

[Indy]

This is by far the most likely outcome. Not statistically, but we know how it goes.

On tankathon we drop to 5 or 6 half the time I play it. Seems to me it is statistically probable that's what happens.

Yeah, I kept seeing that when I was playing. If we finish with the 3rd worst record, we have roughly a 50/50 chance of getting pick 5/6/7 vs 1/2/3/4.

[Split T]

You figure essentially a 14% chance at each pick and 1-4 adds up to 56%

[Indy]

You figure essentially a 14% chance at each pick and 1-4 adds up to 56%

Little less than that:

14.0 13.4 12.7 12.0 for 52.1%