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The Bucks are MVPs when it comes to trolling the other team

Hermen wrote:The Bucks are MVPs when it comes to trolling the other team

Man, what a huge slap in the face this must be for the Raptors. Here they are thinking they've got their deepest team ever and then whammo! In a big hole. Game 4 is pretty much a must win for them.

Superbone wrote:

specialsauce wrote:Listen old man, if anybody's memory is hazy it's yours!

Why you little whippersnapper!

C'mon, I have socks older than 'Bone ...

specialsauce wrote:This is not the first time I've heard someone compare the Lopez and Len situations.

I'm sorry. Robin was every much the player he is now that he was when he was on the Suns. The only difference I see is he has a more reliable jump shot. He was a solid defender, shot blocker and decent rebounder while on the Suns. He was very consistent.

Len is more Jake Voskuhl, Hamed Haddadi, Iakovos Tsakalidis than he is Robin Lopez.

That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Rondo is out indefinitely with a broken thumb. This series got a little more interesting.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

specialsauce wrote:This is not the first time I've heard someone compare the Lopez and Len situations.

I'm sorry. Robin was every much the player he is now that he was when he was on the Suns. The only difference I see is he has a more reliable jump shot. He was a solid defender, shot blocker and decent rebounder while on the Suns. He was very consistent.

Len is more Jake Voskuhl, Hamed Haddadi, Iakovos Tsakalidis than he is Robin Lopez.

That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Thank you.

Superbone wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

specialsauce wrote:This is not the first time I've heard someone compare the Lopez and Len situations.

I'm sorry. Robin was every much the player he is now that he was when he was on the Suns. The only difference I see is he has a more reliable jump shot. He was a solid defender, shot blocker and decent rebounder while on the Suns. He was very consistent.

Len is more Jake Voskuhl, Hamed Haddadi, Iakovos Tsakalidis than he is Robin Lopez.

That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Thank you.

Just a question from the 15% -

How many years we will have to pay Len $10+ Mil per year prior to him coming around and actually earning his salary?

https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/855437433554558976

A little confirmation for In2's earlier post.

carey wrote:

https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/855437433554558976

A little confirmation for In2's earlier post.

That's too bad. I like Rondo in the playoffs, and that really hurts Chicago and the East.

Injuries suck.

JustWinBaby wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

specialsauce wrote:This is not the first time I've heard someone compare the Lopez and Len situations.

I'm sorry. Robin was every much the player he is now that he was when he was on the Suns. The only difference I see is he has a more reliable jump shot. He was a solid defender, shot blocker and decent rebounder while on the Suns. He was very consistent.

Len is more Jake Voskuhl, Hamed Haddadi, Iakovos Tsakalidis than he is Robin Lopez.

That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Thank you.

Just a question from the 15% -

How many years we will have to pay Len $10+ Mil per year prior to him coming around and actually earning his salary?

Honestly, I think if Len got more than 20mpg he'd probably avg a double-double. Most of us have our gripes with him for sure, but he's a big mobile guy who defends and rebounds. Thats probably worth 10m per just in itself.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

specialsauce wrote:This is not the first time I've heard someone compare the Lopez and Len situations.

I'm sorry. Robin was every much the player he is now that he was when he was on the Suns. The only difference I see is he has a more reliable jump shot. He was a solid defender, shot blocker and decent rebounder while on the Suns. He was very consistent.

Len is more Jake Voskuhl, Hamed Haddadi, Iakovos Tsakalidis than he is Robin Lopez.

That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Agree to disagree.

Look at his numbers the second year with PhX compared to now. Essentially the same if you account for a bump in MPG.

Robin was consistently great at post D and shotblocking while he was here. He was a great complement to Amare. He never backed down from anyone and played like a big man.

Len plays small. He consistently gets beat by anyone his size. He cannot stay out of foul trouble. Robin had some rough offensive nights but his defense and grit were never in question.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

JustWinBaby wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:

specialsauce wrote:This is not the first time I've heard someone compare the Lopez and Len situations.

I'm sorry. Robin was every much the player he is now that he was when he was on the Suns. The only difference I see is he has a more reliable jump shot. He was a solid defender, shot blocker and decent rebounder while on the Suns. He was very consistent.

Len is more Jake Voskuhl, Hamed Haddadi, Iakovos Tsakalidis than he is Robin Lopez.

That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Thank you.

Just a question from the 15% -

How many years we will have to pay Len $10+ Mil per year prior to him coming around and actually earning his salary?

Honestly, I think if Len got more than 20mpg he'd probably avg a double-double. Most of us have our gripes with him for sure, but he's a big mobile guy who defends and rebounds. Thats probably worth 10m per just in itself.

Len can't get 20 mpg because he a) can't stay out of foul trouble and b) was outplayed by the 13th man on the team when Tyson went down. We were statistically worse off defensively when he was in the game, which is supposedly his strength.

specialsauce wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:

JustWinBaby wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
That is severe revisionist history. Robin Lopez was maddeningly inconsistent when he was a Sun. He'd have one game where he looked great, played awesome defense at the rim, played competent offensively. Then the next two games he'd barely contribute anything. He was reviled by many of the fans who posted here / at the old .net. He has come quite a long way over the years since he left Phoenix.

Thank you.

Just a question from the 15% -

How many years we will have to pay Len $10+ Mil per year prior to him coming around and actually earning his salary?

Honestly, I think if Len got more than 20mpg he'd probably avg a double-double. Most of us have our gripes with him for sure, but he's a big mobile guy who defends and rebounds. Thats probably worth 10m per just in itself.

Len can't get 20 mpg because he a) can't stay out of foul trouble and b) was outplayed by the 13th man on the team when Tyson went down. We were statistically worse off defensively when he was in the game, which is supposedly his strength.

When has Len finished in traffic? On occasion he dunks when he has an open path to the hoop and the defense does not react in time. He hardly ever creates a 3 point play on anyone. He was supposed to have this fantastic stroke yet he rarely makes any of his jump shots. He did show some 3 point range in the last few games of the season. We will see how McDonough plays it. Based on playing time our coach is not convinced that he has earned more minutes than his other options.

Hawks are showing some pride and are up by 20+ in the 4th in Game 3 of their series. Wall has 29 points on 10-12 (!) shooting, but Beal is just 5-19. Millsap for the Hawks has 29 on 12-20 shooting with 14 boards, and Schroder has 24 points and 8 assists.

http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400950422

Markieff calling Paul Millsap a crybaby is pretty rich.

Millsap should've replied by saying "I wasn't the one bitching and moaning when Marcus got traded".

Raptors closed out the Bucks by going small and sending Jonas V to the bench.

Meanwhile, Thon Maker had 5 blocks in 13 minutes and looked very good in his limited minutes in this series. He looks like a baller. I might have to change my mind about how the Bucks draft.

UglyTruth wrote:M******f calling Paul Millsap a crybaby is pretty rich.

Millsap should've replied by saying "I wasn't the one bitching and moaning when Marcus got traded".

Haha Elijah Millsap is on our roster.

Ring_Wanted wrote:Haha Elijah Millsap is on our roster.