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Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:31 pm
by Cap

https://twitter.com/Suns/status/952742629329940480

Onto the next 23-point loss? Pathetic.

Stupid ad, too. Like Gatorade wants me to associate them with feelings of nausea.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:06 pm
by Superbone
Danimal wrote:Bender is stone cold
Austin, he was not.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:07 pm
by Superbone
O_Gardino wrote:Imagine if you had paid to watch this game. smh
I paid for League Pass.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:09 pm
by Superbone
Cap wrote:

https://twitter.com/Suns/status/952742629329940480

Onto the next 23-point loss? Pathetic.

Stupid ad, too. Like Gatorade wants me to associate them with feelings of nausea.
It would have been better if they had said, "Flush it down." first.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:29 pm
by Cap
Superbone wrote:
Cap wrote:

https://twitter.com/Suns/status/952742629329940480

Onto the next 23-point loss? Pathetic.

Stupid ad, too. Like Gatorade wants me to associate them with feelings of nausea.
It would have been better if they had said, "Flush it down." first.
Cotton would have appreciated that.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:12 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:Imagine if you had paid to watch this game. smh
I paid for League Pass.
Same.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:56 am
by Indy
Split T wrote:I've always been a Russ fan, I appreciate how hard he plays. Still, I can see how last year rubbed people the wrong way. Although I think that has more to do with coaching/management than it does with Russ. Durant ditched them and the whole season became the Westbrook show. Westbrook is the most physically overpowering PG the league has ever seen and while he's not my ideal PG, the guy is a pleasure to watch.
People loved Pippen for doing the exact same thing once Jordan had to retire the first time.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:57 am
by Indy
Holy shit that was awful.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:19 am
by O_Gardino
Indy wrote:
Split T wrote:I've always been a Russ fan, I appreciate how hard he plays. Still, I can see how last year rubbed people the wrong way. Although I think that has more to do with coaching/management than it does with Russ. Durant ditched them and the whole season became the Westbrook show. Westbrook is the most physically overpowering PG the league has ever seen and while he's not my ideal PG, the guy is a pleasure to watch.
People loved Pippen for doing the exact same thing once Jordan had to retire the first time.
I think people generally do admire Russ for the season he had. He was MVP, after all. He just has a few haters here.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:39 am
by djy2j
The last two games have been piss poor effort. Close to the first 3 games type effort. What bothers me most is that it came after the longest stretch of practice time of the season. I figured they'd come out looking sharp Friday and have that carry over to this game. Can't believe it was Brightside night and a bunch of kids had to watch this garbage. It's embarrassing.

When does Williams come back? I'm over Tyson Chandler.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:52 am
by O_Gardino
djy2j wrote:The last two games have been piss poor effort. Close to the first 3 games type effort. What bothers me most is that it came after the longest stretch of practice time of the season. I figured they'd come out looking sharp Friday and have that carry over to this game. Can't believe it was Brightside night and a bunch of kids had to watch this garbage. It's embarrassing.

When does Williams come back? I'm over Tyson Chandler.
There was a specific play (in the second quarter?) where we got the rebound, threw a quick outlet pass to Booker, and Book went into attack mode. He dribbled hard up the court, and all 5 Pacers scrambled to get back and cover him. Credit to the Pacers for hustling hard to get back. So Booker is attacking from the wing right by the table with the score keeper, and all 5 Pacers are spread out between him and the basket. No other Suns were over half court. Nobody. Nobody running to the basket. Nobody running to the opposite corner. Nobody trailing the play. Just 4 guys taking a leisurely stroll to see How Booker will do 1 on 5.

I wanted to throw my TV. I wanted JVG as coach, just to see him pull all 4 of those guys and put in our deepest bench. I wasn't even watching on the TV, and I hate JVG, but I was so mad at that play. The lack of hustle is infuriating.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:20 am
by Indy
djy2j wrote:The last two games have been piss poor effort. Close to the first 3 games type effort. What bothers me most is that it came after the longest stretch of practice time of the season. I figured they'd come out looking sharp Friday and have that carry over to this game. Can't believe it was Brightside night and a bunch of kids had to watch this garbage. It's embarrassing.

When does Williams come back? I'm over Tyson Chandler.
I heard they spent much of the week just trying to get guys healthy (and figure out who they needed to bring up from NAZ just to fill out the roster). Still not an excuse for the lack of effort.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:45 am
by INFORMER
specialsauce wrote:I just can’t watch Daniels, Canaan, House anymore.
I'm fine with Canaan, but I don't have any interest in seeing House out there, and we should move Daniels to a contender.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:12 am
by Ring_Wanted
INFORMER wrote:I'm fine with Canaan, but I don't have any interest in seeing House out there, and we should move Daniels to a contender.
Agreed. The game against Portland could raise some interest. Expiring and a legitimate second round would be enough. If non expiring back, a 1stR.

Check out the Wizards. They are always in the hunt for cheap contributors, are currently employing Jodie Meeks (16mpg!!) and have one useless Jason Smith making $5'45M (player option) next season.

Maybe DET gives you Stanley Johnson for Daniels and a second.

Would also see if one Hernangomez becomes available. I'd add a second to Daniels.

Would offer Len, Daniels and second for Cory Joseph.

And would looove to grab Swanigan from POR. Harkless-Caleb-pick for Len-Daniels works and gives POR a lot for two guys they are not using (one being a questionable contract).

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:40 am
by INFORMER
I like Cory Joseph. I've been looking at a few scenarios to acquire him.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:44 am
by Superbone
INFORMER wrote:I like Cory Joseph. I've been looking at a few scenarios to acquire him.
I'm still waiting for your next "Miles Plumlee" trade proposal where it actually happens and you nail all the details.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:48 pm
by Mori Chu
Why so eager to dump Daniels, one of our few consistently good shooters, who is young and on a fairly reasonable contract?

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:05 pm
by INFORMER
With plenty of draft picks (and thus a need for roster spots), time needed for Reed and Jackson, and the fact that he has value, I don't see a reason not to trade him. He doesn't do anything for the big picture.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:17 pm
by Cap
How much trade value does he have, really? I'd be happy to trade him if the return is significant, but I wouldn't trade him just to trade him.

Re: Game Day: Pacers (22-20) @ Suns (16-27), Sun 1/14/18

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:31 am
by Ring_Wanted
Cap wrote:How much trade value does he have, really? I'd be happy to trade him if the return is significant, but I wouldn't trade him just to trade him.
You can get an expiring plus a legitimate second round pick in 2019 or 2020 for sure. Perhaps a prospect that has fallen out of favor. Or a lowly 1stR if the other team is in the playoffs for sure and sending back a non expiring deal.

In any case, trading him has more benefits than whatever asset we can get as this would allow us playing Davon Reed.