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Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:35 pm

Ayton is really bad this game.

He is devastated by Canaan's departure.

Okobo has played well. I’m so happy Canaan is gone. Clearly it was a management move to force Igor to stop playing Canaan and I’m sure they felt that was the only way to force his hand.

Ayton is showing all of his warning signs in this game. Playing lazy, slow defensively, extremely timid and soft offensively. Honestly he shouldn’t be in this game down the stretch, Holmes should be in. Another sign that Igor has no sense and no balls.

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 pm

Okobo has played well. I’m so happy Canaan is gone. Clearly it was a management move to force Igor to stop playing Canaan and I’m sure they felt that was the only way to force his hand.

Ayton is showing all of his warning signs in this game. Playing lazy, slow defensively, extremely timid and soft offensively. Honestly he shouldn’t be in this game down the stretch, Holmes should be in. Another sign that Igor has no sense and no balls.

Agreed that Ayton should be benched down the stretch. I'm also struggling to figure out why Ariza played 39 minutes tonight.

Gotta love Sports Center highlighting plays where Boban is outplaying Ayton.

Okobo was impressive. I liked his aggressiveness even more than his stat line. Next step is consistency.

Imagine if Ayton had the same motor as Harrell. He doesn't but just imagine.

I still don't get the stretches by Jackson where he fouls 3 times in 15 seconds. Infuriating.

This team has to lead the league in dumb plays. TJ stepping over the line while trying to inbound. Like cmon dude!

Ariza driving to the basket is an automatic turnover. Every. Single. Time.

Suns got abused by Boban. Maybe next time we can suit up Hamed Haddadi and have Clash of the Titans night.

I'm tired of losing.

Boban's per 36 minutes for his career - 23.1 pts, 14.8 reb, 57.2 FG%

His career PER of 27.8 puts him between Michael Jordan (27.9) and LeBron James (27.7), and ahead of Shaq (26.4), David Robinson (26.2) and Wilt Chamberlain (26.1).

Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:49 pm

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 pm

Okobo has played well. I’m so happy Canaan is gone. Clearly it was a management move to force Igor to stop playing Canaan and I’m sure they felt that was the only way to force his hand.

Ayton is showing all of his warning signs in this game. Playing lazy, slow defensively, extremely timid and soft offensively. Honestly he shouldn’t be in this game down the stretch, Holmes should be in. Another sign that Igor has no sense and no balls.

Agreed that Ayton should be benched down the stretch. I'm also struggling to figure out why Ariza played 39 minutes tonight.

Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:35 pm

Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.

You have to be truly bad if you are playing 26mpg and starting 75% of the games yet you get released out of nowhere without the team even making a move to add someone to replace you (other than finally giving Okobo playing time).

Still think choosing him over Shaq was dumb.

Gotta give props to Jackson. He's been much better and more under control lately. His early-season stretch was pretty concerning.

Okobo was a really nice bright spot. Like other's have asked, what took so long?

Holmes is just a delight. I was excited when we got him, but he's blown past my most optimistic expectations.

Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:08 am

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:35 pm

Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.

You have to be truly bad if you are playing 26mpg and starting 75% of the games yet you get released out of nowhere without the team even making a move to add someone to replace you (other than finally giving Okobo playing time).

And the news barely even registers with the team’s most obsessed fans.

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:49 pm

Get your jersey signed, Bone. Tell him Indy sent you.

I expect some in-person commentary that we can't get from TV. If you don't have the Tapatalk app yet, get it since it makes it a lot easier to post from your phone.

Sorry, Indy. Just reading this for the first time. I had great seats but that arena is just too crowded. Not enough room to text!

Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:35 pm

Ayton is really bad this game.

Yup, worst game of his career thus far. He needs to learn to hold the ball up high and also to make decisive moves before the defense can react.

Drewsprocket wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:36 pm

Ayton is soft. It’s gonna take til the end of the year or over the summer to figure it out.

How about JJ and Okobo? Great games for them.

Very good game from both of them. I think we found our starting point guard.

Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm

48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.

We are so much smaller than the Clippers. They had 3 big guys at all times. We just had Ayton and Holmes; never at the same time. Tough to compete when there are constant mismatches.

Cap wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:58 am

Ring_Wanted wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:08 am

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:35 pm

Canaan is gone. Now I can’t wait for Dec 15 to unload Arizas dead weight so Igor can’t keep forcing him onto us. Should have seen more Jackson and Bridges tonight.

You have to be truly bad if you are playing 26mpg and starting 75% of the games yet you get released out of nowhere without the team even making a move to add someone to replace you (other than finally giving Okobo playing time).

And the news barely even registers with the team’s most obsessed fans.

I expected to see a new thread. I didn't see any news prior to the game and was wondering why he wasn't with the team tonight. I was delighted with Okobo's play tonight. I was also delighted when I googled Canaan on the way home from the game to find out he had been waived.

Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm

48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.

https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1067990483941486592

Ayton has to learn to box out if he wants to reach his full potential.

I could tell from the start of the game that neither team was especially "up" for the game. The first few minutes were brutal as no one seemed engaged. We eventually snapped out of it, but I could tell Ayton didn't really show up to play. I don't know if it was Boban or the 2nd night of a back to back but someone needs to get on him and light a fire.

Marjanovic looks like he's a bit trimmer, maybe losing 15-20 lbs to gain more agility.
Not that he's Kareem-like on the court, but he looks more mobile.
He no doubt learned some lessons from his stint with the Spurs and with the Pistons, get beat on by Drummond in practice with Detroit.
As EJ mentioned, he's become a slightly shorter version of Mark Eaton.

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:05 am

Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm

48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.

We are so much smaller than the Clippers. They had 3 big guys at all times. We just had Ayton and Holmes; never at the same time. Tough to compete when there are constant mismatches.

We ought to be able to outrun them, but we don't run this year.

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:07 am

Superbone wrote: ↑

Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:05 am

Xylus wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:39 pm

48-29 rebounding advantage for the Clippers.

PF is a greater position of need than PG.

We are so much smaller than the Clippers. They had 3 big guys at all times. We just had Ayton and Holmes; never at the same time. Tough to compete when there are constant mismatches.

We ought to be able to outrun them, but we don't run this year.

It’s hard to run when you’re inbounding the ball each time instead of taking the rebound and running with that.