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Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:17 am
by Mori Chu
Derrick Jones Jr was good, and we were dumb to just discard him like we did. We had a glut of too many mediocre SFs/swings and so we didn't give him a chance. Always liked the kid.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:59 am
by The Bobster
His shooting needs some improvement, especially from the 3-point arc (23%) and free throw line (61%)

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:56 pm
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:59 am
His shooting needs some improvement, especially from the 3-point arc (23%) and free throw line (61%)
This season? Ouch.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:08 pm
by INFORMER
Yeah, that 3-point percentage is rough. I could have promised it was higher earlier in the season.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:48 pm
by Danimal
The Bobster wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:37 am
He's got amazing athleticism.

Shot form looks better also ( that’s only watching the makes though)

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:01 am
by Danimal
Superbone wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:56 pm
The Bobster wrote:
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:59 am
His shooting needs some improvement, especially from the 3-point arc (23%) and free throw line (61%)
This season? Ouch.
Looks like he’d fit right back in with our suns

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:55 am
by SDC
Mikal bridges for kuzma?

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:45 am
by O_Gardino
I've got high hopes for JL. You can see i his eyes that he is engaged in the game and looking for the right play on both ends. Lot's of growing left to do, but we knew that when he was drafted. I can see the improvement in his form on the shot and in his awareness of when to pass. I he keeps working, he can be a good NBA player.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:48 am
by ShelC
Kinda concerned there aren't many fundamentals offensively. He's getting a lot off against really bad defense and pulling off some pickup moves/points he won't see in the league with actual defense being played.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:11 am
by Mori Chu
He seems like a good kid, and I'm rooting for him. But I just don't see the point of players who are more athletes than they are basketball players. If you're going to be an NBA guard, you need to be really good at one or more of: shooting, passing, defense. Is Lecque above-average, or even average, at any of these? I just don't consider "athleticism" or "dunking" or "can drive past chair-level defenders" to be anywhere near the same category in terms of importance. Paul MacPherson didn't make it, either, and he was an explosive athlete and dunker.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:08 pm
by Split T
He was in high school last year, I think it’s fine that he’s not a highly skilled shooter, ball handler, or defender yet.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:26 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:08 pm
He was in high school last year, I think it’s fine that he’s not a highly skilled shooter, ball handler, or defender yet.
For example, LeBron's shooting sucked in HS.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:31 pm
by In2ition
The problem that I see with Lecque is that there will be a number of PGs in the draft this year, that the Suns could have available when they pick that are immediately better than Lecque or at least have a higher floor next season. Like for instance, what does Lecque do that's better than what Cole Anthony or many other prospects could provide immediately?

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:00 pm
by ShelC
I'm not sure he projects as a PG even. Could be a combo/scoring guard next to Book. I don't have any problem developing him as it was a low risk/high reward project and he seems like a good kid with exceptional physical tools. Not unlike the flyer we took on Archie, except Jalen seems to have a better head on his shoulders and more versatility to his game.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:15 pm
by Shabazz
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:31 pm
The problem that I see with Lecque is that there will be a number of PGs in the draft this year, that the Suns could have available when they pick that are immediately better than Lecque or at least have a higher floor next season. Like for instance, what does Lecque do that's better than what Cole Anthony or many other prospects could provide immediately?
It's frustrating that we're trying to develop 5 mediocre PG prospects at the same time, and the one we needlessly traded away would have solved our problems at the position. We could have even played Ty and Melton together.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:21 pm
by Split T
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:31 pm
The problem that I see with Lecque is that there will be a number of PGs in the draft this year, that the Suns could have available when they pick that are immediately better than Lecque or at least have a higher floor next season. Like for instance, what does Lecque do that's better than what Cole Anthony or many other prospects could provide immediately?
I don’t think it’s fair to compare him to a potential 1st overall pick. Lecque doesn’t need to be our pg of the future. Just develop him and see what he is. He was an undrafted FA, anything we get from him is a bonus.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:29 pm
by O_Gardino
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:15 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:31 pm
The problem that I see with Lecque is that there will be a number of PGs in the draft this year, that the Suns could have available when they pick that are immediately better than Lecque or at least have a higher floor next season. Like for instance, what does Lecque do that's better than what Cole Anthony or many other prospects could provide immediately?
It's frustrating that we're trying to develop 5 mediocre PG prospects at the same time, and the one we needlessly traded away would have solved our problems at the position. We could have even played Ty and Melton together.
You two can save yourselves some frustration by just not reading the last 5 names on the roster. :lol:

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:35 pm
by Mori Chu
It wouldn't be the 2010s/2020 Phoenix Suns if we didn't have five mediocre backup PGs on the bench, none of whom can be trusted to actually be in the rotation.

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:32 pm
by In2ition
Split T wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:21 pm
In2ition wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:31 pm
The problem that I see with Lecque is that there will be a number of PGs in the draft this year, that the Suns could have available when they pick that are immediately better than Lecque or at least have a higher floor next season. Like for instance, what does Lecque do that's better than what Cole Anthony or many other prospects could provide immediately?
I don’t think it’s fair to compare him to a potential 1st overall pick. Lecque doesn’t need to be our pg of the future. Just develop him and see what he is. He was an undrafted FA, anything we get from him is a bonus.
How about LaMelo Ball, RJ Hampton, Theo Maledon, Killian Hayes, & Tyrese Haliburton?

Re: Suns News: Week 13 1/21-1/26

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:38 pm
by Drewsprocket
Or just trade for someone more ready. I just saw Blazers vs Pacers and really think Aaron Holiday is gonna be a player. Why not use our good trade chips to get someone closer to being ready rather than the Draft. Clearly we don’t draft well.