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Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:52 am
by The Bobster
Ayton loves playing Denver apparently -
4 GP, 33.5 Min, 60.6 FG% 13.5 Reb, 22.0 Pts
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:14 pm
by JeremyG
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 am
Ayton since returning to the starting lineup vs. the Knicks on Jan. 16 -
13 GP, 35.0 Min, 53.9 FG% 83.7 FT%, 12.7 Reb, 2.5 Ast, 0.9 Stl, 1.6 Blk, 20.9 Pnts
List of players averaging 20/12 for the season so far -
Joel Embiid (22.7/12.0)
Gianis Antetokounmpo (30.0/13.5)
List of NBA players averaging 18/12 and 1.5 blocks this season:
Deandre Ayton
Over the last decade, the average is 1 NBA player per season, with zero players doing it in 2012-13, 2015-16, and 2016-17. Players to do it within their first 2 seasons (since blocks began to be counted in 1973-74): Shaq, Robinson, Barkley, McAdoo (all Hall of Famers)
List of players in NBA history to have Ayton's current season averages in points, rebounds, blocks (began in 1973), and FG% in any NBA season:
Dwight
Shaq
Robinson
Kareem
Artis Gilmore
Bob McAdoo
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:28 pm
by jonh
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:14 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 am
Ayton since returning to the starting lineup vs. the Knicks on Jan. 16 -
13 GP, 35.0 Min, 53.9 FG% 83.7 FT%, 12.7 Reb, 2.5 Ast, 0.9 Stl, 1.6 Blk, 20.9 Pnts
List of players averaging 20/12 for the season so far -
Joel Embiid (22.7/12.0)
Gianis Antetokounmpo (30.0/13.5)
List of NBA players averaging 18/12 and 1.5 blocks this season:
Deandre Ayton
Over the last decade, the average is 1 NBA player per season, with zero players doing it in 2012-13, 2015-16, and 2016-17. Players to do it within their first 2 seasons (since blocks began to be counted in 1973-74): Shaq, Robinson, Barkley, McAdoo (all Hall of Famers)
List of players in NBA history to have Ayton's current season averages in points, rebounds, blocks (began in 1973), and FG% in any NBA season:
Dwight
Shaq
Robinson
Kareem
Artis Gilmore
Bob McAdoo
Wow. Post this every time I whine about Ayton.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:43 pm
by AmareIsGod
JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:14 pm
The Bobster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 9:37 am
Ayton since returning to the starting lineup vs. the Knicks on Jan. 16 -
13 GP, 35.0 Min, 53.9 FG% 83.7 FT%, 12.7 Reb, 2.5 Ast, 0.9 Stl, 1.6 Blk, 20.9 Pnts
List of players averaging 20/12 for the season so far -
Joel Embiid (22.7/12.0)
Gianis Antetokounmpo (30.0/13.5)
List of NBA players averaging 18/12 and 1.5 blocks this season:
Deandre Ayton
Over the last decade, the average is 1 NBA player per season, with zero players doing it in 2012-13, 2015-16, and 2016-17. Players to do it within their first 2 seasons (since blocks began to be counted in 1973-74): Shaq, Robinson, Barkley, McAdoo (all Hall of Famers)
List of players in NBA history to have Ayton's current season averages in points, rebounds, blocks (began in 1973), and FG% in any NBA season:
Dwight
Shaq
Robinson
Kareem
Artis Gilmore
Bob McAdoo
Cap to chime in shortly comparing a washed up Euro D-league player we haven't heard of with better per 36 numbers that only actually averaged 6 minutes per game.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
by AmareIsGod
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:30 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:04 am
A big concern of mine is if Book just gets tired of DA
I'm already tired of him.
Join the club. Cap has a spot next to him for you to take a seat and pile on the hate. Damn 2nd year 21 year old disappointment.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:51 pm
by JeremyG
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:30 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:04 am
A big concern of mine is if Book just gets tired of DA
I'm already tired of him.
Join the club. Cap has a spot next to him for you to take a seat and pile on the hate. Damn 2nd year 21 year old disappointment.
Not only just his 2nd year, but he's just getting his 2nd year started, and his production keeps going up this season.
Since 1973, Ayton is the only Phoenix Suns player besides Charles Barkley to average 12 rebounds per game.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:30 pm
by ShelC
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:59 pm
by djy2j
ShelC wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:30 pm
James Jones making sure the starters average 40 plus minutes a game from here out.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 pm
by SunsRIt
Maybe Bender or Thomas coming?
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:08 pm
by iLLmatic
So much for that veteran leadership. I guess James Jones couldn't find any assets for an expiring contract or they're going to try and plan the FA game this summer.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:10 pm
by ShelC
They recalled Jalen Lecque from the GLeague so he's taking the spot for now I think.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:20 pm
by djy2j
It’d be nice to have a GM who demonstrates a plan that is actually understandable.
We’re going to build through the draft. No. We’re going to build through free agency because we don’t like to draft. No. We’re going to acquire pieces through trades because we have trade pieces. No. We’re going to build through the draft because we didn’t make any trades...
It’s like he’s working off of a sea of Post it notes and someone just opened a window
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:20 pm
by Indy
that would make sense Shel
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:21 pm
by iLLmatic
Well that TJ trade was lauded because of his huge expiring contract this year. We did nothing with it.
This team finds new ways of disappointing me.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:20 pm
by INFORMER
AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:46 pm
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:30 pm
ShelC wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:04 am
A big concern of mine is if Book just gets tired of DA
I'm already tired of him.
Join the club. Cap has a spot next to him for you to take a seat and pile on the hate. Damn 2nd year 21 year old disappointment.
Let's not be overly sensitive. I don't think anyone is piling on the "hate."
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:26 pm
by INFORMER
These "the only other players to average _______" posts remind me of when Eric Bledsoe was here and we were treated to the statistical insights of how only LeBron James puts up comparable averages as Bledsoe.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:35 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
So you’re telling me Ayton doesn’t remind you of Bob McAdoo?
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:12 pm
by Mori Chu
A $20m expiring contract ain't what it used to be.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:20 pm
by AmareIsGod
INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:26 pm
These "the only other players to average _______" posts remind me of when Eric Bledsoe was here and we were treated to the statistical insights of how only LeBron James puts up comparable averages as Bledsoe.
Bledsoe, in all his years here, never had a standout game to me. Never seemed to dominant anyone he was matched up with. That's the difference when you talk about Bledsoe and Ayton. Ayton has had, in my opinion, several such games. And he's only a season and half into his career.
Re: Suns News: Week 15 2/3-2/9
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:52 pm
by INFORMER
We absolutely should feel better about Ayton than we ever did about Bledsoe.
But the whole "the only other players to average _______" accolades do nothing for me, and ultimately they don't really capture true impact and value.
For instance, how many players in NBA history averaged at least 29 points and 9 assists per game? Five. Trae Young, James Harden, Russell Westbrook, Tiny Archibald, and Oscar Robertson. That's great. But I wouldn't even rank Trae Young as a top 5 player this season.