Monty Williams Fired
- Democritus
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Monty for Lue? Is that even feasible, can you trade HC's ?
How did Doug Rivers became Clippers coach? I remember vaguely that he was under contract elsewhere ??
How did Doug Rivers became Clippers coach? I remember vaguely that he was under contract elsewhere ??
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They traded for him. 1st round pick was the price
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I wasn't going to come back here until next season starts as I hate all the trade scenarios. But this is a big deal.
I agree with you Nodack but I will add that Ayton may be safe too at least for another year. My reasoning is that the Suns finally got a #1 pick in their 50+ years and got a true big man with that pick. You can't just toss that away. Coaches come and go. I think it would be worth it to give another coach a chance to light a fire under his ass and show him the way to greatness. Others have said that maybe Ayton just needs a change of scenery and he might do better somewhere else. Well having a new coach might be the same thing. I would rather give him the chance and hope he reaches his potential here instead of someplace else.
One more thing. No more Frank Johnson types!
I had to come back to edit. I have faith in Ishbia. He wants to win and seems ready to spend to do it. I think he has a plan and just needs time to put it in place. The quick addition of Durant and firing of Williams I believe are evidence of this. I didn't like the way Sarver was forced out but I'm glad he is gone.
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I'm sad to see Monty go. This, like the KD trade, seems like something over reactionary from a new owner. I think the KD move is understandable (even if I would have waited for the off season to reassess), but unless you know who you're going with already... It's the type of thing that makes me worried that Izzo or Thomas are on a very short list somewhere.
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I liked Monty and was a frequent apologist- although I hated our bench rotations. My main hope is that Book and KD are ok with this. I disliked our offense this post season- specifically the lack of adjustments to free up KD. So long as Ishbia wants to put his stamp on this team, he better pair KD and Book with a solid roster that isn’t going to embarrass itself. Next year, he will be the one to blame.
When was the last time a coach left his team to play for another?
When was the last time a coach left his team to play for another?
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Wasn't one of the big reasons KD wanted to come to Phoenix was to play for Williams? The other obviously was to pair with Booker.
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If we hire Isiah Thomas as our new head coach, so help me, ...
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My fear is he is "helping" Ishbia behind the scenes.
I hope Mat don't make the same mistakes Sarver did in his beginning.
I hope Mat don't make the same mistakes Sarver did in his beginning.
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He's absolutely giving Ishbia his opinion on things, if not advising in some capacity. He'll be on his usual "I was a star, I can relate to these guys" or "I ran an organization, I know what needs to be done" BS. He ran his course with Dolan, now he's siding up to the new, young, rich owner.
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You and me both on talking trade scenario’s. During the season I hate talking trade scenarios. So annoying. The season is over and now is the time I guess. We still have zero input so, it’s basically just guys talking.JJ Slim wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2023 5:30 amI wasn't going to come back here until next season starts as I hate all the trade scenarios. But this is a big deal.
I agree with you Nodack but I will add that Ayton may be safe too at least for another year. My reasoning is that the Suns finally got a #1 pick in their 50+ years and got a true big man with that pick. You can't just toss that away. Coaches come and go. I think it would be worth it to give another coach a chance to light a fire under his ass and show him the way to greatness. Others have said that maybe Ayton just needs a change of scenery and he might do better somewhere else. Well having a new coach might be the same thing. I would rather give him the chance and hope he reaches his potential here instead of someplace else.
One more thing. No more Frank Johnson types!
I had to come back to edit. I have faith in Ishbia. He wants to win and seems ready to spend to do it. I think he has a plan and just needs time to put it in place. The quick addition of Durant and firing of Williams I believe are evidence of this. I didn't like the way Sarver was forced out but I'm glad he is gone.
I really wanted Ayton to be worthy of the #1 pick and his max contract. Maybe a new coach motivates him. I think people like Booker and KD don’t need to be coached into having a drive to succeed. Booker and KD live and breathe basketball. I don’t see the fire in Ayton. He has skills and size. No fire. His basketball IQ seems to be at a low level. Is he good? Yes. Has he been a worthy #1 pick and a worthy max contract guy? Not to me. He has been a major disappointment.
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I love talking trade scenarios haha
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To each his own as they say. Basketball talk is entertainment. If it entertains you then do it my friend.
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Oh boy
Isiah Thomas you are the next GM/Head Coach of the Phoenix Suns.
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Maybe he's got the Golden Touch and he'll make all the right moves. Maybe he's rich know-it-all messing with a good thing after 2 weeks on the job and will begin installing his buddies who will start hiring their buddies.
It's just weird after all the success we've had the past 3 years with Jones and Monty, fans are acting like it's some fluke or they got lucky and failed upwards. Or they act like this is success is the norm for us and we're entitled to a championship already.
It's just weird after all the success we've had the past 3 years with Jones and Monty, fans are acting like it's some fluke or they got lucky and failed upwards. Or they act like this is success is the norm for us and we're entitled to a championship already.
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Well fuck, this is the one thing I didn't want, Ishbia to go all Cuban, not gonna end well.
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No, it's more likely it was just the blowout. In the grand scheme of things, starting Shamet over Okogie or Craig isn't good, but it isn't that huge of a deal.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.
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Exactly. I don't see how it gets done.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.