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Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:02 pm
by INFORMER
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:INFORMER wrote:In2ition wrote:How about this scenario: The Suns get the #1 pick, decide that the guy they want could be had at #3.
Funny, I've been thinking about trading out of the first pick if the Suns landed it.
What kind of trade are you picturing? Trade down how far, and then (hopefully) pick whom?
Nothing too dramatic; much like the Celtics did in going from 1 to 3. I wouldn't trade out of the top 4. I would targeting Bamba or JJJ.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:19 am
by Superbone
So, we got it! 16 and 17, right? Or is there a tie breaker between Milwaukee and Miami?
ETA: Undetermined. A coin flip on Friday will decide the pick's fate.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 509647002/
We will either get 16 and 17 or only 16 depending on the flip.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:44 am
by Gladiator
Superbone wrote:So, we got it! 16 and 17, right? Or is there a tie breaker between Milwaukee and Miami?
ETA: Undetermined. A coin flip on Friday will decide the pick's fate.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 509647002/
We will either get 16 and 17 or only 16 depending on the flip.
it would be such a recent Suns thing to do to win a coin flip for a draft pick the GM seemingly doesn't really want
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:57 am
by Hermen
Gladiator wrote:Superbone wrote:So, we got it! 16 and 17, right? Or is there a tie breaker between Milwaukee and Miami?
ETA: Undetermined. A coin flip on Friday will decide the pick's fate.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 509647002/
We will either get 16 and 17 or only 16 depending on the flip.
it would be such a recent Suns thing to do to win a coin flip for a draft pick the GM seemingly doesn't really want
Or just having a GM that doesn't want a draft pick
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:24 am
by Superbone
Hermen wrote:Gladiator wrote:Superbone wrote:So, we got it! 16 and 17, right? Or is there a tie breaker between Milwaukee and Miami?
ETA: Undetermined. A coin flip on Friday will decide the pick's fate.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 509647002/
We will either get 16 and 17 or only 16 depending on the flip.
it would be such a recent Suns thing to do to win a coin flip for a draft pick the GM seemingly doesn't really want
Or just having a GM that doesn't want a draft pick
If we don't get the pick this year, I think it would be even less likely that we would get it next year.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:42 am
by O_Gardino
Giannis is great, but the Bucks are still the Bucks. They have a lot of salary tied up in bench players and now they have to find a coach and another impact player on the midlevel exception. They are going to screw up at least one of those things. It's very possible they mess up both.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:18 am
by Indy
O_Gardino wrote:Giannis is great, but the Bucks are still the Bucks. They have a lot of salary tied up in bench players and now they have to find a coach and another impact player on the midlevel exception. They are going to screw up at least one of those things. It's very possible they mess up both.
And even with all the turmoil this year, they made the playoffs and won 44 games. I don't see them losing more games next year.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:27 am
by O_Gardino
Sure, but the longer they keep it, the better our chances of getting a higher pick, IMO. They might take a similar path as the '14-'15 Pelicans, who made the playoffs on 45 wins, then broke the roster and replaced the coach.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to have the pick now. I like a few guys in that range, and we need like 10 new players. But I don't think it's now at #17 or later at #25. If we don't get it now, there's a good chance we get a good pick later.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:48 am
by Indy
O_Gardino wrote:Sure, but the longer they keep it, the better our chances of getting a higher pick, IMO. They might take a similar path as the '14-'15 Pelicans, who made the playoffs on 45 wins, then broke the roster and replaced the coach.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to have the pick now. I like a few guys in that range, and we need like 10 new players. But I don't think it's now at #17 or later at #25. If we don't get it now, there's a good chance we get a good pick later.
I don't expect it to drop to 25 right away either, but I also don't think there is typically drafts as deep as this one. I mean, look was two top 10 picks got us two years ago... :/
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:57 pm
by Superbone
I'd much rather have the bird in the hand.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:31 am
by INFORMER
carey wrote:INFORMER wrote:specialsauce wrote:INFORMER wrote:I'm pretty sold on evening the odds for all 14 teams that don't make the playoffs.
I like it, with the caveat of not being allowed a top 3 pick more frequently than every 4 years.
I think that's a little extreme.
So is evening the odds imo.
Is it though? I would make the top 5 picks subject to a lottery with even odds for all non-playoff teams. So the worst team won't draft worse than 6. I think that's the only way to go that will make a difference and isn't needlessly complicated. It also helps the teams that get stuck in the 10-13 range of the draft, like Charlotte.
I've always been a fan of rebuilding, but GMs have taken it to an unsavory extreme that produces bad optics for the league and mind-numbing, incessant narrative in the media about tanking. I like young players getting a chance to play to develop, and I like a team giving a few G-League guys a chance here and there. But teams have them trotting out full-blown G-League rosters out there. It's embarrassing.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:43 pm
by EDC
The drawing happens in a few minutes. Hopefully we get the pick.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:43 pm
by EDC
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:52 pm
by specialsauce
Fuck!
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:53 pm
by specialsauce
So next year it’s protected 1-3 and 17-30.
So we only get it if it’s 4th-16th. Highly unlikely barring an injury to Da Freak
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:17 pm
by bajanguy008
I saw this tweet just now and was like Wait a minute , did I miss something.....
https://twitter.com/SeanCunningham/status/984913601566621696
I just saw Phx #1 and it's like I subconsciously didn't even see Lottery, just saw Draft Order
Geeez man, I'm already losing it lol
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:28 pm
by Superbone
Bummer. Bucks win by losing.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:29 pm
by Superbone
Man, Tankathon is on it quick. Already updated the 17th pick to Milwaukee.
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:32 pm
by Superbone
Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:10 pm
by The Bobster
Well, how exactly is it harder to trade Milwaukee's 1st next year instead of this year?
There's a good chance it will be a better pick next year, and if not, it will be unprotected in 2020.