I don't see it with Hunter, but guys from Virginia tend to out perform their pre-draft evaluations.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:45 am
by Split T
I like him. I don’t like that we’d be taking him top 5...as he’s be evaluated differently and be paid differently. In most drafts he’d be a late lotto guy.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:20 am
by O_Gardino
"I used to uhh, you guys are going to laugh, I used to go on message boards..."
I like him. I don’t like that we’d be taking him top 5...as he’s be evaluated differently and be paid differently. In most drafts he’d be a late lotto guy.
I'm fine with him in the late lotto (9-14). The inference in my point was that I don't like him for the Suns draft position.
I'll be surprised if he's ever an all-star, but I don't think it's a bad thing to take a solid 25min+ rotation guy in the late lottery.
I like him. I don’t like that we’d be taking him top 5...as he’s be evaluated differently and be paid differently. In most drafts he’d be a late lotto guy.
I'm fine with him in the late lotto (9-14). The inference in my point was that I don't like him for the Suns draft position.
I'll be surprised if he's ever an all-star, but I don't think it's a bad thing to take a solid 25min+ rotation guy in the late lottery.
I just think the 3-7 range is full of late lotto guys, so we have to take one of them if we don’t land Zion or Ja. Maybe RJ, but I’m not a huge fan. I think he could suffer from the josh Jackson syndrome of thinking he’s better than he is. He’s got confidence and aggression, but I’m not sure he’s as skilled as you’d like. His shot is meh. He’s just an ok athlete.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:28 pm
by Split T
I really don’t care where we land if we don’t land top 2. A guy I want at 3 would be there at 7. Would give us more cap space too. I guess landing 3 and trading back to 7 would be ideal if we don’t get top 2.
I really don’t care where we land if we don’t land top 2. A guy I want at 3 would be there at 7. Would give us more cap space too. I guess landing 3 and trading back to 7 would be ideal if we don’t get top 2.
It’s rather get a top 2 pick or get the hell out of this draft.
I really don’t care where we land if we don’t land top 2. A guy I want at 3 would be there at 7. Would give us more cap space too. I guess landing 3 and trading back to 7 would be ideal if we don’t get top 2.
It’s rather get a top 2 pick or get the hell out of this draft.
I think it is more of a "if you don't get top 2, don't give up more assets to try and pick multiple players between 3-10" like we did a few years ago. But if everyone is thinking this draft is nothing out of the top 2, we are not going to get good value for trading out of it.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:13 am
by Split T
It’s easy to say trade the pick if we don’t land top 2, but like Indy said...other teams know this draft isn’t great as well. If we trade the pick, we’ll surely see a lot of complaints about the return.
It’s easy to say trade the pick if we don’t land top 2, but like Indy said...other teams know this draft isn’t great as well. If we trade the pick, we’ll surely see a lot of complaints about the return.
We are going to trade it in a package that "wins" us Rozier. We will stretch Tyler and use some savings from that to re-sign Oubre, say we don't have enough left to bring back Holmes, then make an offer to Bender to play PF and say that we addressed our needs.
It’s easy to say trade the pick if we don’t land top 2, but like Indy said...other teams know this draft isn’t great as well. If we trade the pick, we’ll surely see a lot of complaints about the return.
We are going to trade it in a package that "wins" us Rozier. We will stretch Tyler and use some savings from that to re-sign Oubre, say we don't have enough left to bring back Holmes, then make an offer to Bender to play PF and say that we addressed our needs.
This would be almost the worst case possible. I hope you are entirely wrong. Rozier isn't the solution.
It’s easy to say trade the pick if we don’t land top 2, but like Indy said...other teams know this draft isn’t great as well. If we trade the pick, we’ll surely see a lot of complaints about the return.
We are going to trade it in a package that "wins" us Rozier. We will stretch Tyler and use some savings from that to re-sign Oubre, say we don't have enough left to bring back Holmes, then make an offer to Bender to play PF and say that we addressed our needs.
This would be almost the worst case possible. I hope you are entirely wrong. Rozier isn't the solution.
Oh, I couldn't agree more. It isn't what I want. It is what I would expect based on the behavior of our owner (I was sitting in the audience at AWA when he walked out Amar'e during the 2006 draft party to say "Here is your 1st round draft pick!" right after we drafted Rondo and traded him for future considerations then drafted Sergio Rodriguez and sold him to Portland for cash).
It’s easy to say trade the pick if we don’t land top 2, but like Indy said...other teams know this draft isn’t great as well. If we trade the pick, we’ll surely see a lot of complaints about the return.
We are going to trade it in a package that "wins" us Rozier. We will stretch Tyler and use some savings from that to re-sign Oubre, say we don't have enough left to bring back Holmes, then make an offer to Bender to play PF and say that we addressed our needs.
This would be almost the worst case possible. I hope you are entirely wrong. Rozier isn't the solution.
Oh, I couldn't agree more. It isn't what I want. It is what I would expect based on the behavior of our owner (I was sitting in the audience at AWA when he walked out Amar'e during the 2006 draft party to say "Here is your 1st round draft pick!" right after we drafted Rondo and traded him for future considerations then drafted Sergio Rodriguez and sold him to Portland for cash).
The Rondo draft was so frustrating to me. All I wanted was Rondo to drop to the Suns and then I see them trade it away was gut wrenching. My thought was that they needed someone that could be a pest to change the defensive pace when subbing in for Nash, but also someone that could have kept up the pace of the offense shoving it down the throats of the opposing team. We all saw how bad the Suns looked and how the pace slowed when Nash was out, but instead of trying to push it faster the next year, they got turned by group NBA think that they needed more defense(and yet passed on Rondo). I'm still pissed at this, and D'Antoni being so myopic about him.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:45 am
by Indy
Your coach should not be your GM and vice versa. They often times have competing priorities and need completely different vantage points to make good decisions.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:38 am
by Shabazz
I actually think RJ Barrett will be a very good pro. I like him a lot more than Culver. I just don't think he's a fit on our roster (right now).
I actually think RJ Barrett will be a very good pro. I like him a lot more than Culver. I just don't think he's a fit on our roster (right now).
If you took your 50th percentile NBA projection for them, what would be their doppelganger? We can all say that if so-and-so hits their high-end projection, he will be the next Curry/Durant/George/whatever. But realistically, what do the top 4 guys average projections feel like?
Zion-->
Morant-->
Culver-->
RJ-->
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:19 pm
by In2ition
I'm pretty sure that RJ is going to be a star in the league some day. I agree that he may not be the best fit for this team right now, but he's going to be better than Jackson day 1. He could even play as a big point guard from time to time, as he's a very good ball handler and it would be tough for pgs to keep him from getting to the basket.
Re: 2019 NBA Draft Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:34 pm
by BigLewy
Personally, if the pick is outside the top 3, just trade it. Zion, Ja, RJ in that order, and if we get #3, draft RJ and say adios to TJ and maybe JJ. But we all know the Suns will drop to #5 at least.
I think I’m moving Hunter back up my draft board. He’s very unlikely to be a star, but I know he’ll be good. he’ll defend 4 positions and he’ll hit 3’s.
I hate to put too much emphasis on one game, but Hunter really put on a show in the championship game. Displayed tremendous 2-way ability. The thing about him and PJ Washington, is that they just disappeared far too often. And that is scary for guys that aren't freshmen.