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Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:31 pm
by Wally_West
4 team trade idea

Suns- KD

Nets- Donovan Mitchell, Bojan Bogdanovic, Jakob Poeltl, Shamet and 1st from Suns, 2nd round picks

Jazz- CamJ, Dario, Crowder, Devin Vassell, 3 1st from suns plus 2 swaps

Spurs- Ben Simmons

Why?

Nets- Get their all-star in Mitchell, draft picks, get expiring contracts and will still be a competitive team in the East. After the Kyrie/Westbrook trade, they will have 70+ million coming off the books.

Jazz- this would be a better deal than the rumor Knicks deal is plus this deal with get under the cap too.

Spurs- Ben Simmons is still a 3 times all-star, this would be a steal, plus they keep their 10 million of cap space still. I remember there was rumor last year their was mutual interest between them. Spurs are tanking so they can bring Ben Simmons along slowly. No rush to get him back on the court.

Suns- Cuz KD plus a lineup of CP-Book-Mikal-KD-Ayton!!👀

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:36 pm
by Wally_West

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:46 pm
by JeremyG
I still don't get the talk about luxury taxes and KD. Getting KD doesn't have to increase our luxury tax bill at all, if we send out enough salary.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:56 pm
by Cap
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 pm
I listened to the Pod, Flex wasn’t wavering at all. Says he still thinks 99% chance KD is on the Suns to start the season. He says he goes back and forth if Mikal will be gone tho.
The fuck?! We’re not trading Paul or Book. We can’t trade Ayton. And we’re going to trade for KD without including Mikal? Impossible. He’s the only valuable asset we have left. The Nets aren’t going to trade KD for just a bunch of expiring contracts and late picks.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:00 pm
by INFORMER
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:31 pm
Spurs- Ben Simmons is still a 3 times all-star, this would be a steal, plus they keep their 10 million of cap space still. I remember there was rumor last year their was mutual interest between them. Spurs are tanking so they can bring Ben Simmons along slowly. No rush to get him back on the court.
Stop. :lol:

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:00 pm
by Wally_West
Cap wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:56 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 pm
I listened to the Pod, Flex wasn’t wavering at all. Says he still thinks 99% chance KD is on the Suns to start the season. He says he goes back and forth if Mikal will be gone tho.
The fuck?! We’re not trading Paul or Book. We can’t trade Ayton. And we’re going to trade for KD without including Mikal? Impossible. He’s the only valuable asset we have left. The Nets aren’t going to trade KD for just a bunch of expiring contracts and late picks.
The pod was released 2 days ago, so it was before all the Ayton developments that happened today.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:01 pm
by Wally_West
INFORMER wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:00 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:31 pm
Spurs- Ben Simmons is still a 3 times all-star, this would be a steal, plus they keep their 10 million of cap space still. I remember there was rumor last year their was mutual interest between them. Spurs are tanking so they can bring Ben Simmons along slowly. No rush to get him back on the court.
Stop. :lol:
Lol. All my trades ideas are rosterbations to keep Mikal. I make no apologies. :lol:

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:06 pm
by Cap
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:00 pm
Cap wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:56 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 pm
I listened to the Pod, Flex wasn’t wavering at all. Says he still thinks 99% chance KD is on the Suns to start the season. He says he goes back and forth if Mikal will be gone tho.
The fuck?! We’re not trading Paul or Book. We can’t trade Ayton. And we’re going to trade for KD without including Mikal? Impossible. He’s the only valuable asset we have left. The Nets aren’t going to trade KD for just a bunch of expiring contracts and late picks.
The pod was released 2 days ago, so it was before all the Ayton developments that happened today.
Today’s developments were not exactly surprising, so they shouldn’t have a big impact on his predictions.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:50 pm
by Superbone
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 pm
I listened to the Pod, Flex wasn’t wavering at all. Says he still thinks 99% chance KD is on the Suns to start the season. He says he goes back and forth if Mikal will be gone tho.
Sounds like wavering to me!

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:32 pm
by JeremyG

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:40 pm
by JeremyG
If the KD trade is still hanging out there at the deadline to extend Cam Johnson, what do the Suns do?

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:42 pm
by Wally_West
Superbone wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:50 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 pm
I listened to the Pod, Flex wasn’t wavering at all. Says he still thinks 99% chance KD is on the Suns to start the season. He says he goes back and forth if Mikal will be gone tho.
Sounds like wavering to me!
On Mikal being included not about KD coming to the Suns. 8-)

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:42 pm
by Cap
JeremyG wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:32 pm
From -105 to -115 is shooting? It isn’t even spitting.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:49 pm
by Wally_West

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:01 pm
by Wally_West

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:57 pm
by Superbone
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:42 pm
Superbone wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:50 pm
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:16 pm
I listened to the Pod, Flex wasn’t wavering at all. Says he still thinks 99% chance KD is on the Suns to start the season. He says he goes back and forth if Mikal will be gone tho.
Sounds like wavering to me!
On Mikal being included not about KD coming to the Suns. 8-)
Wavering is wavering!!! :P

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:59 pm
by Superbone
Wally_West wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 14, 2022 8:49 pm
OK, Flex. We don't need to hear you explain yourself. Let it go.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:59 pm
by Split T
What does Brooklyn say to this offer:

Mikal, Crowder, Saric, Shamet, Payne, Craig and 4 1sts(plus as many swaps as possible) for KD, Harris, and Curry? Maybe switch Curry for Mills if Brooklyn is adamant.

CP3/Booker/CamJ/KD/Ayton with
Curry/Lee/Harris/Wainright/Biyombo off the bench.

Brooklyn probably counter offers with KD/Harris/Mills for Mikal/Crowder/CamJ/Saric/Craig/Payne and all the picks. I don’t know if they’d see getting off Harris deal as a positive though. If not, just scratch it. Would really love to add Curry or Mills to the deal though.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:35 pm
by JeremyG
Mills can’t be traded until December 15.

Re: Is KD coming to the Suns?

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:25 am
by Flagrant Fowl


The Rockets have the right to swap picks with the Nets in 2023, 2025, and 2027. So why wouldn't the Nets acquire the Suns pick in those years and swap in the years when they control their own pick?

Am I missing something or is Gambo really this dumb?

Edit: I just remembered the Suns traded their 2022 pick, so they can't deal or swap their 2023 pick with Brooklyn. I guess he's right about just that one pick. I doubt that really matters in the bigger picture as it doesn't have much value. The 2025 and 2027 pick should have a higher priority for the Nets.