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Posted: **Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:58 am**

ShelC wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:17 am
You guys are making Frank out to be a lot more than he is/will be.

In what way? Inf seems to be the highest on him and says he sees him playing alongside okobo in the 2nd unit if he develops.

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:03 am**

ShelC wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:53 am

SDC wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:36 am
i'd give derrick rose a 3 yr/39 mil deal next season.
Welp, we've found McD's burner account on Phx-suns.net.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... ede01.html

19ppg on 48/44/86 shooting, 29 minutes/game.

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:19 pm**

DeAngelo Russell might be hard to get away from Brooklyn, he’s playing really well right now. If they still have dreams of chasing big FA, they might hesitate if we offer the max on July 1st.

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:12 pm**

And back to Brogdon, he is shooting 52% on FGs, 42% from 3, and 95% from the line.

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:27 pm**

INFORMER wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:12 pm
And back to Brogdon, he is shooting 52% on FGs, 42% from 3, and 95% from the line.

Not only that, he outscores his man and doesn't need a lot of shots to do it. He scores 1.36 pps, where Russell scores 1.11.

advanced stats for these two--what does Russell give you that Brogdon doesn't?

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Rk            Player  Season Age   FG  FGA  FG%  3P  3PA  3P%  2P  2PA  2P%  FT FTA  FT% ORB DRB TRB  AST STL BLK TOV  PF  PTS ORtg DRtg
1    Malcolm Brogdon 2018-19  26  9.5 18.3 .520 2.4  5.8 .421 7.1 12.5 .565 3.4 3.5 .957 1.6 5.7 7.3  5.4 1.0 0.4 2.6 2.4 24.9  121  108
2    DAngelo Russell 2018-19  22 12.3 28.0 .437 4.3 11.5 .374 8.0 16.5 .481 2.4 3.0 .810 0.8 5.3 6.2 10.5 1.8 0.5 4.8 2.7 31.2  106  112

Provided by Basketball-Reference.com

Do people really think it will cost 20-25M to get him? If so, no way Bucks would give him that, right?

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:30 pm**

Ya brogdon would be at the top of my list, Milwaukee will pay him though. If they let him go and don’t spend to keep a 1/2 seed squad together, Giannis will be the next big star to ask out.

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:35 pm**

But middleton will opt out this summer, too, right? If they pay both those guys, it will be really hard to pay Giannis the 40 million he will command in 2 years. You can't have 40-50M/year tied up in Brogdon and Middleton then give him 40, can you?

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:52 pm**

Maybe not, that team will get pricey. Bledsoe is a free agent as well. They may choose to let him go, but he’s playing well for them this year.

Posted: **Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:21 pm**

Split T wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:52 pm
Maybe not, that team will get pricey. Bledsoe is a free agent as well. They may choose to let him go, but he’s playing well for them this year.

contract year...

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:28 pm**

Indy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:21 pm

Split T wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:52 pm
Maybe not, that team will get pricey. Bledsoe is a free agent as well. They may choose to let him go, but he’s playing well for them this year.
contract year...

Exactly my thoughts.

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:42 pm**

Split T wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:19 pm
DeAngelo Russell might be hard to get away from Brooklyn, he’s playing really well right now. If they still have dreams of chasing big FA, they might hesitate if we offer the max on July 1st.

The thought of having 2 non PGs who dont defend both making max money is disgusting.

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:18 pm**

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:42 pm

Split T wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:19 pm
DeAngelo Russell might be hard to get away from Brooklyn, he’s playing really well right now. If they still have dreams of chasing big FA, they might hesitate if we offer the max on July 1st.
The thought of having 2 non PGs who dont defend both making max money is disgusting.

The personal foibles of Russell’s character, and the personal foibles of Booker’s, seem like a volatile mix. You put those two in the same locker room, you are asking for a soap opera.

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:30 pm**

Russell is a pg

Posted: **Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:24 pm**

Cap wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:18 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:42 pm

Split T wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:19 pm
DeAngelo Russell might be hard to get away from Brooklyn, he’s playing really well right now. If they still have dreams of chasing big FA, they might hesitate if we offer the max on July 1st.
The thought of having 2 non PGs who dont defend both making max money is disgusting.
The personal foibles of Russell’s character, and the personal foibles of Booker’s, seem like a volatile mix. You put those two in the same locker room, you are asking for a soap opera.

this

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 3:03 pm**

DAR has a score first mentality and is really taking his offense to another level with Levert out. Not sure he and Booker would be a good mix offensively. Brogdon and Booker would be much better.

And I know Rose has had a good year, but his injury history and style doesn't interest me in the least. Also not sure he's a good lockerroom personality. Not saying he's a bad one, but I like the young group we have now.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:13 pm**

If we bring in a PG this offseason who just wants to score and isn't a good passer or defender, so help me, I don't think I'll be able to watch.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:20 pm**

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 25, 2019 5:13 pm
If we bring in a PG this offseason who just wants to score and isn't a good passer or defender, so help me, I don't think I'll be able to watch.

You wish.

Don’t even try to stop watching this train wreck. That doesn’t end well.

“Oh, God! I can still see!”

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:29 pm**

Split T wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:30 pm
Russell is a pg

Disagree.

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:33 pm**

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:29 pm

Split T wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:30 pm
Russell is a pg
Disagree.

Curious why you think that? Russell has the 6th highest assist rate in the nba this year. His A/TO rate is pretty good. He’s a little more of a shoot first guy, but he has good court vision. I think he’s a very good offensive fit with Booker. Defense is the question mark.

Only guys with higher assist rates: Westbrook, Harden, Wall, Jokic, Paul. He’s above Simmons, Lowry, Draymond

Posted: **Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:46 pm**

Split T wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:33 pm

TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:29 pm

Split T wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:30 pm
Russell is a pg
Disagree.
Curious why you think that? Russell has the 6th highest assist rate in the nba this year. His A/TO rate is pretty good. He’s a little more of a shoot first guy, but he has good court vision. I think he’s a very good offensive fit with Booker. Defense is the question mark.

Only guys with higher assist rates: Westbrook, Harden, Wall, Jokic, Paul. He’s above Simmons, Lowry, Draymond

Cool stat, but doesnt mean he's a PG. He's a SG/combo guard at best, with a solid feel, better feel than Booker, better passer, still not a PG to me.

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