Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:09 am
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Totally disagree. Rubio is the point guard, not Booker. Booker as the primary ballhandler didn't work too well last year.
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Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:11 am
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:21 am
Yea we need to tweak the offense for the bigs, not change the guard setup/structure. To be honest, we weren't running 90% of our offense thru Ayton so I wouldn't think a ton would change.
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:26 am
That must be a strong diuretic if it could flush a whole season down the toilet.
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 am
They are not supposed to say they are disappointed in Ayton’s character and that he has betrayed the values of the organization if they think there was any chance this was an innocent mistake.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:46 amCome on -- what else are they supposed to say? And if the NBPA has TWO protests a year, and if they were willing to spend ONE OF THE TWO on this case -- it seems clear that there are some kind of extenuating circumstances at play.ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:40 amYea they know what the deal is. Jones and the FO doesn't seem to show much tolerance for this kind of stuff. Interested to see how it all ends up.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:35 amIt’s somewhat telling that the official statement from the Suns gives no credence to the “accidental ingestion” defense.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:50 amI am surprised and disappointed that people are jumping on Ayton. The NBPA is using one of their two challenges to defend him as a case of accidental ingestion and everyone is still assuming the worst?
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:46 am
Agreed--Jones's response is very telling here.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 amThey are not supposed to say they are disappointed in Ayton’s character and that he has betrayed the values of the organization if they think there was any chance this was an innocent mistake.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:46 amCome on -- what else are they supposed to say? And if the NBPA has TWO protests a year, and if they were willing to spend ONE OF THE TWO on this case -- it seems clear that there are some kind of extenuating circumstances at play.ShelC wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:40 amYea they know what the deal is. Jones and the FO doesn't seem to show much tolerance for this kind of stuff. Interested to see how it all ends up.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:35 amIt’s somewhat telling that the official statement from the Suns gives no credence to the “accidental ingestion” defense.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:50 amI am surprised and disappointed that people are jumping on Ayton. The NBPA is using one of their two challenges to defend him as a case of accidental ingestion and everyone is still assuming the worst?
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:54 am
Yeah. If you thought there was any chance it was a mistake, the statement would read more like 'we are disappointed by the news' or 'disappointed in the test results.' You don't say Ayton fucked up in a press release if you don't believe it.jonh wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:46 amAgreed--Jones's response is very telling here.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 amThey are not supposed to say they are disappointed in Ayton’s character and that he has betrayed the values of the organization if they think there was any chance this was an innocent mistake.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:46 amCome on -- what else are they supposed to say? And if the NBPA has TWO protests a year, and if they were willing to spend ONE OF THE TWO on this case -- it seems clear that there are some kind of extenuating circumstances at play.
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:49 am
rubio may be the point guard, but he does a poor job of creating for himself that it limits his effectiveness in creating shots for others that are not named ayton.
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:01 am
Even if it is a "mistake" in the form of taking a supplement from a trainer, the org would not be happy about him using an outside trainer.
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:06 am
I’m big Ayton defender but this whole situation is inexcusable. Even if it really is a mistake on Ayton’s part, the fact he would take something without knowing exactly what he was taking is insane to me.
I honestly kind of hope it doesn’t get reduced or rescinded, he deserves all the punishment he gets. When he comes back I fully expect for him to come off the bench until he earns his starting spot again and Monty seems like a guy who isn’t afraid to do that. Every accomplishment, every accolade will always have this cloud over it. I hope Ayton learns from this as a person and becomes better. He’s not a kid anymore, he a man and it’s time for him to understand this.
I honestly kind of hope it doesn’t get reduced or rescinded, he deserves all the punishment he gets. When he comes back I fully expect for him to come off the bench until he earns his starting spot again and Monty seems like a guy who isn’t afraid to do that. Every accomplishment, every accolade will always have this cloud over it. I hope Ayton learns from this as a person and becomes better. He’s not a kid anymore, he a man and it’s time for him to understand this.
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:22 am
Ayton may deserve what he’s getting but I feel like we fans have paid our dues and then some. We don’t deserve this. Do it for the fans, Silver!Wally_West wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:06 amI’m big Ayton defender but this whole situation is inexcusable. Even if it really is a mistake on Ayton’s part, the fact he would take something without knowing exactly what he was taking is insane to me.
I honestly kind of hope it doesn’t get reduced or rescinded, he deserves all the punishment he gets. When he comes back I fully expect for him to come off the bench until he earns his starting spot again and Monty seems like a guy who isn’t afraid to do that. Every accomplishment, every accolade will always have this cloud over it. I hope Ayton learns from this as a person and becomes better. He’s not a kid anymore, he a man and it’s time for him to understand this.
#FREEDEANDRE
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:21 pm
One person's insight into having the suspension reduced: Not looking good.
https://arizonasports.com/story/2131505 ... s#comments
https://arizonasports.com/story/2131505 ... s#comments
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:26 pm
YEAH!!!Shabazz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:22 amAyton may deserve what he’s getting but I feel like we fans have paid our dues and then some. We don’t deserve this. Do it for the fans, Silver!Wally_West wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:06 amI’m big Ayton defender but this whole situation is inexcusable. Even if it really is a mistake on Ayton’s part, the fact he would take something without knowing exactly what he was taking is insane to me.
I honestly kind of hope it doesn’t get reduced or rescinded, he deserves all the punishment he gets. When he comes back I fully expect for him to come off the bench until he earns his starting spot again and Monty seems like a guy who isn’t afraid to do that. Every accomplishment, every accolade will always have this cloud over it. I hope Ayton learns from this as a person and becomes better. He’s not a kid anymore, he a man and it’s time for him to understand this.
#FREEDEANDRE
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:59 pm
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:00 pm
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:03 pm
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 pm
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:18 pm
I don't know about all of this. Clutchpoints is saying that after a thorough investigation it was found that the ingestion was unintentional. And I would not think that the NBPA would support a case on grounds it knows to be false. It weakens them in future cases and perhaps even the next CBA negotiations.Indy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:54 amYeah. If you thought there was any chance it was a mistake, the statement would read more like 'we are disappointed by the news' or 'disappointed in the test results.' You don't say Ayton f*** up in a press release if you don't believe it.jonh wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:46 amAgreed--Jones's response is very telling here.Cap wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:37 amThey are not supposed to say they are disappointed in Ayton’s character and that he has betrayed the values of the organization if they think there was any chance this was an innocent mistake.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:46 amCome on -- what else are they supposed to say? And if the NBPA has TWO protests a year, and if they were willing to spend ONE OF THE TWO on this case -- it seems clear that there are some kind of extenuating circumstances at play.
If I had to guess, Ayton was trying to train and got an outside trainer who fed him stuff.
This rmwould raise new questions about the Suns' new training staff. Why would he go outside of these guys were good?
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:38 pm
He can reuse that same response when/if sanctions are imposed on the U of A team 
Re: Ayton Possible 25 Game Suspension
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:39 pm
This reminded me of the articles from 2 summers ago about Ayton's miraculous body transformation during his year in college.