Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:25 pm
Am I the only one that feels like sometime in the near future, we need to find a way to f with Indiana? WTF was wrong with some form of a S&T?
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Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:27 pm
Sounds like the suns were the team not willing to cooperate with a S&T
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:27 pm
I still don't understand why everyone is so against the idea of running it back AND adding Durant. Or thinks that's impossible.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:29 pm
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:30 pm
Feasibility of it aka will Sarver pony up for a huge tax bill to try and win a championship.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:30 pm
I'd be down to run it back without Durant so we can keep Bridges and Cam. We need depth. Address the holes in our PG / SG backups to Booker and CP3. That's what killed us last season when it came playoffs. CP3 and Booker were cooked.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:34 pm
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:36 pm
I think if KD wants to be here he will be...eventually. Perhaps during the season like I said before. We might not have to give up more than Cam + filler and picks, or even just filler and picks.
(But that's enough about KD. I don't want anyone accusing me of turning an Ayton thread into a KD thread.
)Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:41 pm
My analysis is that we were treading water with the negotiations. And were exploring other options for Ayton, possibly NY or Utah. This was Indiana’s way to force us to deal with them.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:44 pm
Wolf went from saying "KD or back" to "KD AND back." I love it!
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 1:56 pm
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:10 pm
My suggestion...bring him back...and hire Chuck as a special trainer to slap some toughness into his game!
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:20 pm
We've been in Indiana's position in the past. (Anyone remember Eric Gordon?) It's our turn now. Do it Jones!
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:22 pm
The massive luxury tax would only be for one year potentially. CP3 is not fully guaranteed after this season.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:25 pm
Ya but they aren’t waiving CP3 unless he has a career ending injury or something close.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:26 pm
My only fear is that the Suns wait until 9 pm Saturday to match, in order to try to get KD before the matching deadline, so that they can have an excuse for letting DA walk.
I mean let's be honest. If the Suns had already traded for KD, what are the chances they match? If we keep DA, I may have Sean Marks to thank.
I mean let's be honest. If the Suns had already traded for KD, what are the chances they match? If we keep DA, I may have Sean Marks to thank.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:35 pm
Gambo is hearing neither side has interest in a sign-and-trade. Suns are not interested in anything on Pacers' roster.
I bet it's just Herb Simon refusing to let the contract be signed until right before midnight, due to his longstanding policy.
EDIT: Gambo says nothing is close with KD trade talks.
Gambo's gut feeling now is that Suns match the offer sheet.
I bet it's just Herb Simon refusing to let the contract be signed until right before midnight, due to his longstanding policy.
EDIT: Gambo says nothing is close with KD trade talks.
Gambo's gut feeling now is that Suns match the offer sheet.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:42 pm
It's been nice knowing you, virt.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:40 pmAs I have said, if the Suns don't get a good S&T or match, I'm out -- unless the pull off some kind of miracle.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:45 pm
Thanks but I am seeing signs that the Suns have half a brain.Superbone wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:42 pmIt's been nice knowing you, virt.virtual9mm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:40 pmAs I have said, if the Suns don't get a good S&T or match, I'm out -- unless the pull off some kind of miracle.
Re: Ayton agrees to offer sheet with Indiana
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:47 pm
What else ya got?Split T wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:58 pmIt’s hard to have an opinion on this without knowing exactly how it impacts our KD pursuit. If we really can still get KD without anything involving Ayton, then I can just have an opinion on this alone. In that case I’d be in favor of just flipping Ayton for Turner. I would want a pick too, but I’m wary of committing long term max money to Ayton. If we need Ayton or something from Ayton to get KD, I hold out for Turner and a pick or I just tell Indy we’re matching.
Scenarios in order of my preference.
1. Somehow we loop Brooklyn in and just work out some 3 team deal today to get KD to Phoenix and Ayton to Indy.
2. We S&T Ayton to Indy for Turner and a 1st and keep assets in play to flip for KD
3. We get KD without Ayton or assets from an Ayton deal and just take a Ayton for Turner swap.
4. We match an Ayton offer and still find a way to get KD
5. We let Ayton walk and still get KD
6. We S&T Ayton for Turner and a pick but don’t get KD
7. We S&T Ayton for Turner and don’t get KD
8. We match Ayton and don’t get KD
9. We let Ayton walk and don’t get KD
So my clear preference is still just get KD
